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Pyne Family Haverfordwest
« on: Monday 05 April 21 16:20 BST (UK) »
This is a bit of a broad ask - I've checked out the standard census and baptism records on Ancestry - it concerns three generations of 'Henry Pynes' in Haverfordwest.

One Henry Pyne born c 1772, died 1857 - he in one census was described as a 'portrait painter' - he married an Elizabeth Edmond in 1800 - though seemed to leave his estate to a servant , Maria Davies when he died in 1857 rather than his son.
His son Henry Edmond Pyne variously described himself as a 'Comedian' (on the baptism records of his children in the 1820's) though later became a policeman and was the chief constable at Haverfordwest in the 1840's. In charge of the lock up on 12 shillings a week.
His son, another Henry died  in the county Gaol in1868 after being sentenced to 7 days for vagrancy.
Looks to be an interesting tale here  - Artist, Comedian/policeman and vagrant - would love to flesh out the bones especially to try and work out where Henry senior came from.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Pyne Family Haverfordwest
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 April 21 19:33 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Osprey  - the Newspapers on the National Library site are a great resource. I'm getting curious about how a comedian in Haverfordwest made a living in the first half of the 19th century!

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Re: Pyne Family Haverfordwest
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 April 21 19:53 BST (UK) »
Henry senior gives Haverfordwest as his place of birth in the 1851 census, but not born in county in 1841.  ::)

Wonder if comedian meant actor in comedy?

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Pyne Family Haverfordwest
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 July 21 12:47 BST (UK) »
Henry senior gives Haverfordwest as his place of birth in the 1851 census, but not born in county in 1841.  ::)

Wonder if comedian meant actor in comedy?

 :-\
Hello I am directly related to Samuel Meares, he was my GGrandfather and I am very interested to know if you are related to Henry Pyne? Henry's letter home is a heartbreaker and Samuel wrote at the same time but in his he says that he doesn't think Pyne will make it! So it must have been at the time he was so sick, amazing that he recovered under those conditions. I'd love to know if you are connected. I am trying to find out who Elliot is because I have a feeling that he may have been Mary's intended?
Davey Brightlingsea/Jersey/Oxford
Whitsey Lambeth
Cuckow Coventry/Camberwell/Canada
Broadrib Camberwell/Canada
Mear(e)s Haverfordwest/Woolwich
Lemon Plymouth/Woolwich/Plumstead
Staplehurst Sussex/Greenwich
Frisby Market Deeping/Ontario/BC Canada
Terry Bletchingley/London/BC Canada
Hunt Alresford/Plumstead/Deptford
Gorring Plumstead/Canada
Ford  Woolwich - James Thomas died in South Africa
Ellis Woolwich/Wandsworth/Canada
Juby Plumstead

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Re: Pyne Family Haverfordwest
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 July 21 13:05 BST (UK) »
Henry senior gives Haverfordwest as his place of birth in the 1851 census, but not born in county in 1841.  ::)

Wonder if comedian meant actor in comedy?

 :-\
Hello I am directly related to Samuel Meares, he was my GGrandfather and I am very interested to know if you are related to Henry Pyne? Henry's letter home is a heartbreaker and Samuel wrote at the same time but in his he says that he doesn't think Pyne will make it! So it must have been at the time he was so sick, amazing that he recovered under those conditions. I'd love to know if you are connected. I am trying to find out who Elliot is because I have a feeling that he may have been Mary's intended?
Davey Brightlingsea/Jersey/Oxford
Whitsey Lambeth
Cuckow Coventry/Camberwell/Canada
Broadrib Camberwell/Canada
Mear(e)s Haverfordwest/Woolwich
Lemon Plymouth/Woolwich/Plumstead
Staplehurst Sussex/Greenwich
Frisby Market Deeping/Ontario/BC Canada
Terry Bletchingley/London/BC Canada
Hunt Alresford/Plumstead/Deptford
Gorring Plumstead/Canada
Ford  Woolwich - James Thomas died in South Africa
Ellis Woolwich/Wandsworth/Canada
Juby Plumstead

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Re: Pyne Family Haverfordwest
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 July 21 19:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reply Buttercup

No I can't say I'm related directly to the Henry Pynes from Haverfordwest. I've been collecting Pyne info  for many years now - effectively a one name study. Have been aware of the chaps in Haverfordwest for some time and looked an interesting bunch, though have not been able to track down where the eldest Henry came from. Most Pynes stem back to Devon or Cornwall, my own line came from an area just to the West of Bristol.
The letters from the Crimea do sound desperate an offer a real insight into the horrors of warfare back  at that time..

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Re: Pyne Family Haverfordwest
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 July 21 22:34 BST (UK) »
It would be interesting to find out where Henry came from but after looking I couldn't find a birth for him - the Meares have connections to both Bristol and Devon, sadly this family were all dead by 1871 - young Henry's parents both died in early 1865 a month apart and Samuel's father William also died in January 1865 so I think there was some kind of outbreak, possibly typhoid in the Haverfordwest area.
Davey Brightlingsea/Jersey/Oxford
Whitsey Lambeth
Cuckow Coventry/Camberwell/Canada
Broadrib Camberwell/Canada
Mear(e)s Haverfordwest/Woolwich
Lemon Plymouth/Woolwich/Plumstead
Staplehurst Sussex/Greenwich
Frisby Market Deeping/Ontario/BC Canada
Terry Bletchingley/London/BC Canada
Hunt Alresford/Plumstead/Deptford
Gorring Plumstead/Canada
Ford  Woolwich - James Thomas died in South Africa
Ellis Woolwich/Wandsworth/Canada
Juby Plumstead

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Re: Pyne Family Haverfordwest
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 July 21 15:13 BST (UK) »
FreeREG has these records;

Baptism
22 Feb 1801, St Nicholas and St John, Monkton
HENRY Pyne, Son of Henry/Elizabeth

Burial
24 Sep 1840, St Thomas, Haverfordwest
ELIZABETH Pyne age 60
Abode Hill St

Sorry if you already have these.

Trish :)
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