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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 02 June 21 16:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have only looked at the first page- where it states that George Jnr's guardians - until he is one and twenty-are to be William Brodnax of Godmersham, Kent and Samuel Milles of the Inner Temple, London - the latter went on to be MP for Canterbury.
Maybe one of these 2 gentlemen brought George Jnr up?

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« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 02 June 21 17:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks djm297.
Strange though that it says two gentlemen, William Brodnax of Godmersham, Kent and Samuel Milles of the Inner Temple, London, quite a distance between the two places.

A Guardian, though is a person who is legally responsible for the care of someone who is unable to manage their own affairs, especially a child whose parents have died.

So, George didn't then necessarily live with either of them?
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
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« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 02 June 21 21:47 BST (UK) »
Bookbox the thread you refer to is about the Will of Sir George Rooke (1650-1709) Admiral of the Fleet.

This thread is only about the son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739), his upbringing etc.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain


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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 02 June 21 23:03 BST (UK) »
  Samuel Milles, with an address in Inner Temple was possibly his lawyer. Do you know anything about the second wife, who I don't think was mentioned by name in the will? I can't find a likely marriage. 
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Codham/Coltham, Kent
Kent, Felton, Essex
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« Reply #50 on: Thursday 03 June 21 07:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you Top-of-the-hill for your reply.

George Rooke's (1702-1739) father being Sir George Rooke (1650-1709).

Sir George married three times.
The first marriage was to a a Mary Howe, who i believe passed away in 1699.
The second marriage was to a Mary Luttrell (1681-1702), who died giving birth to George Rooke.
The third marriage was to Catherine Knatchbull (?-1755).

So we can see that George Rooke (1702-1739), by the time he was 6 1/2 years old had also lost his father.

So who brought him up?
Where and with whom did he live?
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 03 June 21 07:42 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in any of the threads about the George Rooke- Snr & Jnr, but Lady Catherine Rooke marries the Hon Dr Henry Moor on 26.12. 1710 at Hackington/St Stephen's Kent.

There is a newspaper report of 19.7.1729 announcing the death of Henry Moor-"eldest son of the Hon Dr Moor by Lady Rooke"....maybe George Jnr was brought up in this family?

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 03 June 21 12:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Very concerned that having obtained two wills from National Archives which are their copyright, you
have attached the complete wills on this board for anyone to download. 

Think you should check if you are allowed to do this, it may be infringement of copyright rules.

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 03 June 21 13:51 BST (UK) »
There is a newspaper report of 19.7.1729 announcing the death of Henry Moor-"eldest son of the Hon Dr Moor by Lady Rooke"....maybe George Jnr was brought up in this family?

That would have been the obvious home for him, in my opinion. That's why I asked in a previous post if George had a stepmother.
Possible alternatives:
Living with one of the guardians.
The guardians arranging for someone to look after him.
Boarding school, perhaps staying with stepmother or one of the guardians, or another person for holidays. Was there a school for sons of naval officers? (Prince Phillip didn't have a home, he stayed with schoolfriends for holidays.)

May have been a combination of any of the above depending on George's age and circumstances.

His guardians would have made decisions about his care and maintenance, perhaps in consultation with his stepmother & her husband, taking into account wishes expressed by Sir George when he was alive.
If there was any further written mention of George's childhood it was likely to have been in letters or journals /diaries. There may have been nothing written down, everything may have been arranged by verbal agreement.

Did young George have an occupation?

My most socially exalted ancestors were yeoman farmers and business-owners. Wills of any who  died leaving dependent children made the main heir (eldest son or daughter) if over 21, or the widow and/or the executors responsible for care of the children. Instructions were general and basic: sufficient food & drink, washing, education, a younger son to be apprenticed when old enough. Specific decisions about a child's future (e.g. a trade or skill chosen for a son) were left to the good sense of the widow/executor/elder son/daughter who were trusted to act in the child's best interests. They lived in a small, long-established community with close ties between certain families.
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