LOUISA JANE MORRIS b. 1876 Bridnorth in Lancaster in 1891

[Lesleyperry]

Got it - lancashirebmd and ancestry - thanks, Lesley

All,

As an aside, I looked at Styal Cottage Homes (orphanage) Chorlton and it didn't look too great as I expected.  The two girls (from this thread there in 1911 - Eleanor age 13, Gladys 11) were more than likely my grandma's cousins (still to be conclusively confirmed). 

My grandma - 8 siblings - did stay home w/parents - but money and work were v. short leading up to WW!.   

[wilcoxon]

My goodness, this is getting complicated.
1911 8 Ashworth Street Ardwick.  Same address as marriage in 1913
George Edwards    34 b Shrewsbury ?
Louisa Edwards    34 b Bridgenorth Salop
Charles Edwards    11 b Ardwick
Thomas Saunders    8 b Arwick

GRO index has a Thomas Saunders birth 1904 Mar qtr Chorlton mmn Morris.

[Lesleyperry]

Re: George and Louisa EDWARDS 1911

Looks like Louisa EDWARDS (prev. Thomas SAUNDERS widow, nee MORRIS mmn DAYUS) kept the SAUNDERS son (first marriage) with her but put the two SAUNDERS girls in the home for a while - Styal Cottages (which looked awful).

Charles EDWARDS - from his side, not sure how son/nephew.

Thanks for this, very helpful.

Lesley

[wilcoxon]

https://www.manchester.gov.uk/directory_record/212462/styal_cottage_homes/category/1370/industrial_schoo

Perhaps the girls are listed in the records, and possibly the reason why they were there.

[Lesleyperry]

Re: Styal

- says restricted access but will see what can be done.  There is some other general info. that I will look at (such a shame).  Many thanks for this, Lesley

[wilcoxon]

I would still contact them, perhaps it's later records that may be of people still alive.. it's worth a go.

[Lesleyperry]

Re: Styal Cottages

Maybe the two girls were employees (age 13 and 11) - still grim.  The 1921 census will eventually also provide further information about their lives. 

Anyway, will try to confirm matters first.

Thanks again,

Lesley 

[wilcoxon]

Both girls were classed as inmates  and their occupations "school".
There were over 80 children between 3 and 16 , almost all were girls.

[wilcoxon]

Ancestry .
 I`ve only just spotted this, living next household to George and Louisa .

3 Ashworth Street Manchester
Thomas Saunders Birth Date:    1 Dec 1903 Occupation:    Hod Carrier (Heavy)
Thomas Saunders Birth Date:    16 Jan 1939
Florence Saunders Birth Date:    2 Dec 1900

Thomas Saunders married Florence Ryder in July qtr 1938. South Manchester.
The birth registration of Thomas in 1939 confirms mmn as Ryder.

Florence and her son have been found,  but there`s no  matching date of Thomas. b 1903
Thomas Saunders Death Age: 63  Birth Date:    16 Jan 1939
 Death Registration Date:    Jul 2002 Fleetwood and Fylde, Lancashire

Florence Saunders Birth   2 Dec 1900
Death   Jul 1980 Manchester, Greater Manchester, England