Rosina Mabel Wharton name confusion , Duce ? 1896.

[sparrett]

The 1876 online digitised marriage certificate for Robert Hine WHARTON and Sarah Ann LACEY show her to be a minor, while he is full age.

Mabel may be a daughter of a one of her daughters, being born a full 20 years after her parents marriage.

Sue

[frederickay]

Hi Robert and Sarah  last child  Thomas was born in 1902 ,, he died in 1905 ( I have his death cert ) so it is possible to have had Rosina Mabel in Oct 1896 .I will keep looking , . My mind is not closed to her being a grandchild I just have to find the Duce link . Thanks , Fred , 

[heywood]

Looking at a published tree, the first girl seems to be Clara b 1888.
A couple of the children are entered as Wharlton on the registers, Clara being one of them.

Perhaps one of the sons was father and for whatever reason, the child was raised by grandparents.

The birth certificate and marriage certificate would perhaps clarify the matter.

[frederickay]

Hi , can you direct me the registers please , interestingly Clara and Jessie Wharton were bought up by Sarah sister ... a  Brown relation is about to go into her attic looking at certs , if she doesn’t find them I will order cert , thanks for your help , Fred ,

[Dundee]

Hi Robert and Sarah  last child  Thomas was born in 1902 ,, he died in 1905 ( I have his death cert )

Wasn't Thomas the son of Robert Jnr. and Amelia HOY?

Birth

WHARTON, THOMAS  ALFRED
Mother's maiden surname: HOY     
GRO Reference: 1902  D Quarter in PADDINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 31

Death

WHARTON, THOMAS  ALFRED
Aged 3 
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in PADDINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 19

Debra 

[heywood]

Hi , can you direct me the registers please , interestingly Clara and Jessie Wharton were bought up by Sarah sister ... a  Brown relation is about to go into her attic looking at certs , if she doesn’t find them I will order cert , thanks for your help , Fred ,

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

You need to register but it is free to use.
I had to use FreeBMD too- using just a first name to find some children who were transcribed as Wharlton.

Clara Elizabeth 1888 and Jessica 1890 are registered as Wharlton with mother’s name Lacey.

[sparrett]

The marriage of Amelia HOY and Robert Hine WHARTON jnr took place in 1897 at Christ Church London.
She was 17 years and he 18 years and a mattress maker like his father, Robert Hine WHARTON snr.

Sue

[jonw65]

Hi , The Wharton / Eagle Rosina is a member of the same extended Wharton  family . She is the daughter of Arthur Ernest Wharton and  Elizabeth Eagles . 

1st August 1897, St John the Evangelist, Kensal Green
Arthur Ernest Wharton, 20, Mattress Maker, father Robert Hine Wharton, Mattress Maker
+
Elizabeth Eagles, 20, father William Eagles, Painter
Both single, residence 6 St Johns Terrace

There is a Duce connection involving Eagles
Previous year, 5 April 1896, also at St John the Evangelist, Kensal Green
Henry Joseph Duce, 23, Tailor, 1 St Johns Terrace, father William Duce (deceased), Shoemaker
+
Selina Mary Ann Eagles, 21, 2 Bridge Terrace, father William Eagles, Painter
Both single

James Charles Eagles witnessed both marriages. Elizabeth Eagles witnessed Selina's, the other witness was Margaret Eagles on the Wharton marriage.

EAGLES, SELINA  MARY ANN    
Mother's Maiden Surname: HAWKINS 
GRO Reference: 1876  M Quarter in HAMPSTEAD  Volume 01A  Page 684

EAGLES, ELIZABETH       
Mother's Maiden Surname: HAWKINS
GRO Reference: 1877  S Quarter in HAMPSTEAD  Volume 01A  Page 631

Possible Elizabeth in Willesden in 1891, with two younger sisters.
Their mother is Ellen Duce!
piece 1047 folio 30 page 69
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q6S6-B2M

A tangled web!

[MaureeninNY]

Very tangled!

And now we've lost a rellie in her attic.

The marriage cert will help,I hope.

Maureen