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Re: George Stephen(s) and wife Ann Howett. When/where born/died?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 06 June 21 01:05 BST (UK) »
Possible 1851 entry for daughter Ann Tonkin (shown in rosie99's 1841 listing), at school in Lewisham, Kent.

Ann E Tonkin   Scholar   Female   14   London, Middlesex

...although neither census entries tie in with Ann Tonkin arriving in Australia in 1856 age 24 yrs, as per sparrett's post. Could the entry on the passenger list be a different Ann altogether? There's Ann Tonkin bp 1832 London NC to John and Isabella, and she's in St Luke's Middlesex in 1841 with these parents.
About the girl who arrived in Victoria with Jemima in 1856.
At her death as MILWARD, her parents are named as
James and Jemima

Annie Eliza MILWARD
Born about 1838
Age 81
Death Place Hawthorn, Victoria
Father TONKIN Jas
Mother Jemima STEPHENS
Year1919
Reg 12763

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Ann Eliza TONKIN was previously married before the voyage to Australia.
Image on Ancestry Henry Harman SCHRODER , widower to Annie Eliza TONKIN, spinster
October 1855. All Hallows Barking London. The section ‘with consent of” is struck through.
The signature of the second witness is hard to decipher, but it looks a lot like STEPHENS to me.
Sue

ADDING- possibly Maria Susannah STEPHENS ??
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Re: George Stephen(s) and wife Ann Howett. When/where born/died?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 06 June 21 11:22 BST (UK) »
Question for weemalla: did James and Jemima have a direct descendant Enoch C Tonkin born 1886 Australia? My answer is "Not that i know of"
Also If James Tonkin, Husband of Jemima has been married previously i could understand the 7 children born before the marriage in 1848 would have the Tonkin name, but conversely if Jemima had been married earlier then i would not expect the children to have the surname Tonkin. Also the death cert for James has their son Samuel as the informant. Samuel would have been about age 11 when James died and i would have thought he would have know who his birth parents were.
Also when they emigrated to Aust in 1856 would there have been any restrictions on un-married couples with 7 children travelling. Could this be why the married so late?

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Re: George Stephen(s) and wife Ann Howett. When/where born/died?
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 06 June 21 12:29 BST (UK) »
Also when they emigrated to Aust in 1856 would there have been any restrictions on un-married couples with 7 children travelling. Could this be why the married so late?

No.
There was no investigation into the status of passengers embarking.
No marriage or birth certificates or other proof of identity. For this reason you could stretch ages a little and fabricate occupations.

The impediment to an earlier marriage had nothing to do with the immigration.
Anyhow, it was 8 years prior to the immigration.

The child Enoch Charles Tonkin born in Victoria in 1885 to Thomas Tonkin and  Jane Elizabeth Mullidge  has no apparent connection to your branch of the family.

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Re: George Stephen(s) and wife Ann Howett. When/where born/died?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 06 June 21 19:02 BST (UK) »
The child Enoch Charles Tonkin born in Victoria in 1885 to Thomas Tonkin and  Jane Elizabeth Mullidge  has no apparent connection to your branch of the family.

Perhaps not in the direct line but Tonkin is a Cornish name and Enoch not that common so there may be a connection further back. Given weemalla is trying to found out more about the Stephens family, and it's the 1851 census that says Jemima was born in Cornwall, it would be interesting to see the image to know exactly what is written for hers and James' POBs.

The transcription for James says Dorset but there's no obvious bp for him there, and only a handful of Tonkins in BMD and census records. If there's a chance James and Jemima's POBs were transposed, or mistranscibed, weemalla may need to look somewhere other than Cornwall for the Stephens family.


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Re: George Stephen(s) and wife Ann Howett. When/where born/died?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 07 June 21 01:23 BST (UK) »
Hi
1851census  image for the Tonkin household
There are a few cross outs regarding places of birth for this household.
Note the address of Oxford street ties with the previously mentioned comment in James' Australian death notice.
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