John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow

[MonicaL]

The death you found for a Mary Ann Thomson, mother BLACK not connected. Mary Ann Thomson, daughter of John T and Mary Ann Black was born in 1889.

Monica

[Diana]

HOWITT
CHARLOTTE
98
1972
605/ 408
Glasgow, Martha St

[Diana]

Charlottes 2nd marriage come up on her son Hugh Holt Thomsons marriage in 1931
sssssttill no further forward.
I am trying to find all the other childrens marriages to see if John was alive or dead 

[MonicaL]

He showed as deceased on son John W S's 1919 marriage? Likely given the ages of the Thomson children born from 1901, John W S's marriage would be the first one?

Monica

[sancti]

On the 1919 marriage for their son John, is Charlotte recorded as now Howitt?

[MonicaL]

John Thomson died on 15 August 1916. Clip below which I think tidies up and reconfirms what has been found on this thead:

[MonicaL]

Sancti, as you can see from the address, this is one of the John's you mentioned from the VRs. The 1915 VR is his last as I couldn't see him after (as we now know, he died the following year).

Diana, I think everything is covered on this cert:

His two marriages to Mary Ann Black and Charlotte Campbell

The issue of his parent/s. Although married twice and giving the same info re his parents, John is fact was the illigitimate child of Bridget Thomson. If anything, his reputed father likely a Kennedy (given John's given surname on his 1871 census entry with his mother, half sister Susan and his mother's family).

The birth you have in 1868 with mother showing as Bridget Thomson is correct. Birth registrations always give the mother's maiden name.

So, apart from censuses for him for 1891-1911, you now have all the other key details I think.

Monica

[sancti]

Great finds Monica.

I think the George Thomson Poor House admission record is totally unconnected to the father of John Thomson.

[MonicaL]

John Thomson did a real jumble relating to his parentage on his two marriage regs didn't he. He had all the names, just not connected in the right order (Thomson/Duff/Cairns - his mum was Bridget Thomson, married George Duff who disappears after birth of daughter Susannah, who may have taken up with a Kennedy, father of John, and then starts living with Hugh Cairns for many years)....and I don't think John knew or remembered who his father actually was (thinking here of the surname Kennedy). He may also have simply wanted to cover up the fact his birth was illegitimate.

His death cert has certainly confirmed what we were expecting I think.

Monica