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Re: MORGAN, William: St. Thomas, Southwark, gent. 1749
« Reply #9 on: Friday 13 August 21 20:39 BST (UK) »
I too am extremely interested in tracking down William Morgan father of David Walter Morgan who is my greatX4 grandfather. I have wondered about his connection (if any) with John Morgan of the Inner Temple but have not succeeded. I will be interested to see if the will sheds any light
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Re: MORGAN, William: St. Thomas, Southwark, gent. 1749
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 29 September 22 02:12 BST (UK) »
Update for completeness.

National Archives  have found the Will of William Morgan of St Thomas, Southwark.  1749


In the Name of God Amen, I William Morgan of the
Parish of St Thomas Southwark in the county of Surry Gentleman
being weak in Body but of sound mind memory and understanding
do make this my last will and Testament in manner and form
following that is to say Whereas my Brother the Rev John Morgan
of Sion College London stands indebted unto me in the summe of
twenty one pounds besides interest being the remaining  part of the
summe of forty five pounds I lent him sometime since on his
Note of Hand for the same as may appear by the said Note
now in my Wifes Custody who refuses to deliver  the same to
me Now I do hereby in Consideration of my said Brothers having
maintained and educated my son David Morgan from his
Infancy (he being upwards of fifteen years of age) forgive and
discharge my said Brother John Morgan of and from the said
summe of twenty one pounds and all Interest due thereon to me
at the time of my decease and all thereof residue and remainder
of my Estate of what nature or kind soever I give and bequeath
the same and every part thereof unto my said Brother John
Morgan in trust for my said son David Morgan when he shall
attain the age of one and twenty years At which time I direct
my Executor hereafter named to deliver and pay all such residue
of my said Estate unto him my said son David Morgan for his
own sole use and benefit but incase my said son shall depart this
life before he attains such age then and in such case I give and
bequeath all such residue of my said Estate unto Leonora Morgan
wife of the said John Morgan as a recompense for her extraordinary
love and indulgence  of my said son from his Infancy as aforesaid
and i do hereby nominate constitute and appoint my said Brother
John Morgan sole executor of this my last Will and Testament
hereby revoking all others by me at any time heretofore  made  In
witness whereof I have here unto set my hand and seal this
fourth day of December in the year of our Lord 1749


Signed sealed published and declared by the
Testator William Morgan as and for his last
Will and Testament in the presence of us who
in his presence and at his request have sett
our names as witnesses hereto

Tho. Raffles     Pet. Edwards




On the reverse it says

14th November 1750
The Revd. John Morgan the
Brother of the Testator and sole
Executor within named
was duly sworn


and

Testator died in the parish of St Mary Newington in the county of Surrey in July last.

Which I interpret as July 1750, and so the burial on 13th July 1750 at St Mary Newington which unfortunately only gives his name.

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Re: MORGAN, William: St. Thomas, Southwark, gent. 1749
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 July 23 19:34 BST (UK) »
Having another look at my Gt X 4 grandfather William Morgan. Looking at his will I am rather puzzled by the passage "the said note now in my wife`s custody who refuses to deliver the same note to me" What can that mean? I had assumed that David Morgan was raised from "infancy" by his aunt and uncle because his mother had died. Perhaps that was not the case. I have realised that I do not have a DOB for William or his brother John or a date for their marriages.  Perhaps John Morgan`s involvement with Sion College might yield some clues. What was his role there? Could Herman Olmius and his wife Judith Drigue be benefactors of the college? Could they have helped with the cost involved sending David Morgan to Cambridge and then to study for a higher degree at Oxford? Rather a lot of questions!
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Re: MORGAN, William: St. Thomas, Southwark, gent. 1749
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 July 23 20:41 BST (UK) »
It is morning here, and I am in a rush, so will look at the rest of your questions later.

But regarding the wife, my theory is  that the wife mentioned in the Will is not Davids mother. But a second wife of William. And that David’s mother as you also thought probably died early in David’s life - hence being raised by Leonora and John.

Interesting that even if David dies before reaching 21 the wife gets nothing. It goes to Leonora.


The Rev John’s marriage  is interesting.  Will detail tonight.


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Re: MORGAN, William: St. Thomas, Southwark, gent. 1749
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18 July 23 06:12 BST (UK) »
Rev John's Marriage - I had a whole thread :-) Obviously the first bit about the patron for the Rev John is sorted now. I don't have an actual date for the marriage. Only the allegation 11 October 1720

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=849957.0..


regarding William's marriage(s) there are several possibles for a marriage to Elizabeth, and I have no idea how to pick one. And then there is the possible second marriage too???  it will forever remain a mystery I fear.

John born about 1697 (from his age in the marriage allegation of 23).

have you managed to find out anything about his appointment as Chancellor of St Davids?

several documents here look relevant and might hold more information about him.

https://archives.library.wales/index.php/return-of-chanter-and-chapter-of-st-davids-certifying-that-john-morgan-chancellor-and-james-tunstall

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Re: MORGAN, William: St. Thomas, Southwark, gent. 1749
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 July 23 14:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks for clearing up the mention of William Morgan`s wife in his will. Also the marriage of John Morgan-- I had missed that thread.
Have not found out anything about John Morgan as Chancellor of St. Davids. As I live in Pembrokeshire perhaps I should be able to.. Cannot find out anything about Elizabeth. Baroness Dowager, Abergavenny only a person of that name alive in the 15th century.
Still keen to find out more about John Morgan`s connection with Sion College
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