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Late death registration puzzle
« on: Thursday 22 July 21 13:41 BST (UK) »
Back in the year 2000, my aunt's third husband was hit by a bus, and died. This was in late January 2000.

The death registration is Jul-Aug-Sep quarter which is a long time after he actually died. I suppose there may have been an inquest or investigation into the way he met his end, but would that delay registration by such a long time?

Or maybe my aunt, who did like a drink, put the wrong date on the headstone!
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Late death registration puzzle
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 July 21 13:45 BST (UK) »
There would certainly have been an Inquest after a Road accident, that will have been the cause of the late registration.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Late death registration puzzle
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 July 21 13:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Would that have delayed burial?

 I've not managed to find any burial records but could contact the church.

I was debating whether to order his death certificate, but being so recent would it be available to me,?
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Late death registration puzzle
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 July 21 14:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Would that have delayed burial?

 I've not managed to find any burial records but could contact the church.

I was debating whether to order his death certificate, but being so recent would it be available to me,?

Not necessarily, the body is  sometimes released for burial before an inquest. The cause of death would have been known, the inquest would probably be to determine  who was responsible.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Late death registration puzzle
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 July 21 15:38 BST (UK) »
Assuming this is England and Wales: if he appears in the probate index, that should give you the date of death.

And there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to get a copy of the death certificate, though for some more recent events the GRO site asks for extra information as part of the application (I can't remember the details).
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Re: Late death registration puzzle
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 July 21 15:52 BST (UK) »
The death certificate was probably issued with the coroner the informant if there was an inquest as seems likely even it it was a formality to rubber stamp a police investigation into the accident.  Might be worth trying to find an inquest record, sorry don't know where to look but I'm sure someone on here will know.

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Re: Late death registration puzzle
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 July 21 16:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone.

My aunt died in 2016 and I obtained her death without issue, so hope it will be ok.

Could anyone suggest where to look for inquest records?
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Late death registration puzzle
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 July 21 16:02 BST (UK) »
It is my understanding that when there is no doubt about the CAUSE of death and the purpose of the inquest is to establish the CIRCUMSTANCES of the death, the coroner can issue a certificate to allow burial to proceed before the inquest is concluded.

If you are looking for a press report of the funeral it might be sensible to focus on the period shortly after the accident.

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Re: Late death registration puzzle
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 July 21 16:14 BST (UK) »
Could anyone suggest where to look for inquest records?

Some end up in local record offices, some don't and seem to just disappear. There's more information in the Gibson Guide to Coroners' Records (from the Family History Federation), though the modern records it mentions are all noted as being usually subject to a 75-year closure.

If you can say where the inquest took place, I'll check my copy to see if it says anything useful.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk