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Re: Bolton workhouses, can you get records?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 25 July 21 18:58 BST (UK) »
School records for Samuel and Charles

St James Church of England School, Gorton
Parent Samuel/Address 12 Bank Street

Admitted 10th April 1899 Saml Geo Sisson
Birthdate 13th October 1881 (it does say this, must be a mistake)
Previous school Nottingham

Admitted 3rd December 1900 Charles Sisson
Birthdate 30th May 1894

Also in the Swinton Industrial School. Admitted 29th March 1905
George Sisson, 13 Parish to which chargeable, Prestwich
Discharged 13th March 1906 sent to Boys Refuge for emigration to Canada.
There is a George Sisson age 14 going to Canada with a page full of other boys, just listed as children.
4th April 1906 Liverpool to Saint John NB on the Victorian, a journey of 24 days.

wow thankyou so much i will have acloser look at this, can i ask where you found this information, i have full Ancestry access and FindMyPast. Yes Samuel George was born in 1891 so it is probably a typo! Thats sad if he did get sent to Canada, i will have to dig with that!
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Re: Bolton workhouses, can you get records?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 25 July 21 19:16 BST (UK) »
All records from FindMyPast, search under education & work for the schools.

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Re: Bolton workhouses, can you get records?
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 25 July 21 19:18 BST (UK) »
The Library and Archives Canada website is very useful when researching Home Children. I think the attached link is for George but note here his surname is given as Sissons.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/boards-guardians/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=8894&DotsIdNumber=

Am I correct in saying that Charles died during the First World War? If so there is a service record for him.

William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Bolton workhouses, can you get records?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 25 July 21 19:28 BST (UK) »
The Library and Archives Canada website is very useful when researching Home Children. I think the attached link is for George but note here his surname is given as Sissons.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/boards-guardians/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=8894&DotsIdNumber=

Am I correct in saying that Charles died during the First World War? If so there is a service record for him.

William

Thankyou i will look at that link, yes he died of wounds during ww1 sadly.
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« Reply #31 on: Sunday 25 July 21 19:38 BST (UK) »
This is likely to be George's attestation paper for the Canadian Expeditionary Force.


https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=232079

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Bolton workhouses, can you get records?
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 25 July 21 20:35 BST (UK) »
Here is Charles (age 17) in the free index to 1911 census.
Should be Sisson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYY-4ZT

As Thomas William Gorringe was in business, perhaps Charles was sent to him by the Chorlton guardians to learn a trade, an apprentice. If he went through their system, the guardians may even have adopted him after his father's death

In the service record is a notice of an intended marriage early in 1916 to Alma Raby at Bolton Register Office. Which didn't happen. Charles, then in the army, a shoemaker (journeyman)
Did Alma marry the following year?

A soldier's will for Charles Sisson, regimental no. 16733, died 21.7.16
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

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Re: Bolton workhouses, can you get records?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 25 July 21 20:51 BST (UK) »
Thats really interesting the " Emigrating to Canada by authority of Board of Guardians" as my gr gr grand was a Giardian, him and his wife Sarah met and married in Canada whilst he was in the army and she was working there (both originally from the uk) maybe Charles and George were both going to be sent and he took pity on this little 10 year old. The 1906 ties in to them eing sent somewhere after their dads death. Thank you so much for these finds!
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« Reply #34 on: Sunday 25 July 21 20:55 BST (UK) »
Here is Charles (age 17) in the free index to 1911 census.
Should be Sisson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYY-4ZT

As Thomas William Gorringe was in business, perhaps Charles was sent to him by the Chorlton guardians to learn a trade, an apprentice. If he went through their system, the guardians may even have adopted him after his father's death

In the service record is a notice of an intended marriage early in 1916 to Alma Raby at Bolton Register Office. Which didn't happen. Charles, then in the army, a shoemaker (journeyman)
Did Alma marry the following year?

A soldier's will for Charles Sisson, regimental no. 16733, died 21.7.16
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Yes they signed for an intended marriage, im not sure why they didnt, she did marry in 1917 a month after giving birth to a boy ( with her new husbands surname) the baby was born 8 months after Charles died. Im a bit sad these people arnt blood related finds as they're a lot more interesting than what ive been researching lately, but im so intrigued!
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« Reply #35 on: Monday 26 July 21 08:43 BST (UK) »
Charles Sisson also appears in the UK Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects 1901-1929 (Ancestry)

Thomas Bradshaw received £8.0.0. - 22 March 1920 - mentioned as the legatee in Charles' service records.  But there is an earlier payment - 30 October 1916 - of £9.1.8. to Mrs Alice Cain.

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