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Looking for Tierney - Pawley marriage circa 1888
« on: Monday 16 August 21 13:25 BST (UK) »
James Tierney (born c 1866 Co Monaghan) married Frances (Fanny) Pawley/Pauley/Polly (born c1866 Co Tyrone) - resident 1901 census at 39 Friendly  Street, Belfast:

They had issue:
Mary Catherine Tierney c.1889 probably Belfast
James Tierney 24 Jan 1892 (1 Campbell's Place, Belfast)
Thomas Tierney 15 June 1895 (2 Campbell's Place, Belfast)
John Tierney 6 Nov 1898 (39 Stanfield Place, Belfast)
Andrew Tierney 16 May 1902 (3 Roy Place, Belfast) died 27 July 1906 at 44 Keegan St, Belfast
Andrew Tierney 17 Dec 1907 (44 Keegan St, Belfast)
Sarah Tierney 27 May 1910 (20 Catherine Street North, Belfast)

I cannot locate marriage in civil registration online at GRONI or Irish Genealogy.ie

Any ideas?

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Re: Looking for Tierney - Pawley marriage circa 1888
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 August 21 14:38 BST (UK) »
Mary Catherine Tierney c.1889 probably Belfast

There is a Pauley birth in Belfast then
Mary Catherine
born 5 September 1889 at 13 Lemon Street
Father George Pauley, Shoemaker
Mother Fanny Pauley, formerly Bell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02466/1916008.pdf

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Re: Looking for Tierney - Pawley marriage circa 1888
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 August 21 23:02 BST (UK) »
Mary Catherine
born 5 September 1889 at 13 Lemon Street
Father George Pauley, Shoemaker
Mother Fanny Pauley, formerly Bell

There was also son William James, born 1st June 1888, at 18 Ormond Street.
Father George Pauley a Labourer. Mother Fanny Pauley, formerly Bell, who registered the birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02519/1933611.pdf

William James Pawley died the following year, 8 Dec 1889, age 1, at 11 Galway Street
Mother Fanny Pawley registered the death.
She said that WJ was the child of George Pawley, deceased, Shoemaker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06127/4749950.pdf

Is there a death of a George Pauley/Pawley?
Or a marriage of George and Fanny Bell?
Is this line of enquiry a red herring? :-\

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Re: Looking for Tierney - Pawley marriage circa 1888
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 August 21 23:08 BST (UK) »
James Tierney (born c 1866 Co Monaghan) married Frances (Fanny) Pawley/Pauley/Polly (born c1866 Co Tyrone) - resident 1901 census at 39 Friendly  Street, Belfast:

They had issue

Here they are in 1901 in Friendly Street
James is a General Labourer. Family are Roman Catholic
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000332877/

1911 in  Pouna Street.
James Tierney not at home.
Fanny Tierney, married, is Head of Family. Tells us she is Presbyterian, with the children being Roman Catholic.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001537318/

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Re: Looking for Tierney - Pawley marriage circa 1888
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 August 21 23:36 BST (UK) »
Baptisms to George Pauley / Fanny Bell
William James 1888
Mary Catherine 1889

Baptisms to James Tierney / Pauley
James 1892 (mother Fanny)
Thomas 1895 (mother Frances)

Don't know exact dates or locations.
There may of course be more after Thomas, but not in the index I am looking at.

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Re: Looking for Tierney - Pawley marriage circa 1888
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 August 21 23:47 BST (UK) »
Andrew Tierney 16 May 1902 (3 Roy Place, Belfast) died 27 July 1906 at 44 Keegan St, Belfast

Death here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05556/4559298.pdf

Accidentally scalded with boiling water.
Inquest held 28 July 1906.

Report in the Belfast Newsletter, 31 July 1906, mother Fanny gave evidence.

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Re: Looking for Tierney - Pawley marriage circa 1888
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 August 21 23:56 BST (UK) »
Mary Catherine Tierney married William Ponisi in Belfast in 1907. Apparently she died in Belfast in 1961.

Is it still the case that you can make a FoI request for info from the 1939 Register for Northern Ireland and that it is free? You need an address.
Might be handy to see what Mary gave as her date of birth.
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/1939-national-register.html

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Re: Looking for Tierney - Pawley marriage circa 1888
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 August 21 15:50 BST (UK) »
Have you looked in Scotland for the marriage?