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1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« on: Wednesday 31 August 05 14:42 BST (UK) »
Hello all
I'm looking for the family of Thomas Angelo Ronchetti b York about 1854.  He became a Chemist so it may be in the family?

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Saunders  Norfolk and Suffolk.  Barkway and Barkaway - anywhere.
Mottershall anywhere
Ellis Clerkenwell/Camberwell
Saunders, Woodrow, Leggett, Potter Norfolk
Stacey, Booth, Pennington, Graham, Bennett, Hall, Mawson West Yorkshire
Cooper Cheshire/West Yorkshire
King, Sanger, Hiscock, Gray Wiltshire/Dorset/Hampshire
Barton, Ivett, Minns Cambridgeshire
Palfrey Suffolk
Cox, Crew, Burry Middlesex/Hertfordshire
Burrows Essex

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Re: 1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 15:23 BST (UK) »
This is what i found on the 1861 census for Thomas:

Hannah Gee 1812  Leeds, Yorkshire, England Sister-in-law Housekeeper
Thos A Ronchetti 1854  Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Scholar
Ann Tate 1843  Pickering, Yorkshire, England Servant  Housemaid

Living at 27 St Nicolas St Scarborough

RG9/3619 Folio 35 Pg 14

Jeannette
Davies - Montgomeryshire
Edwards - Selattyn Shropshire
Jones - Llangollen Denbighshire
Harris - Llangollen  Denbighshire/ Cardiganshire
Humphreys - Oswestry / Whittington Shropshire
Pearce - Kent
Gould - Essex / Kent
Phillips - Cefn Mawr
Armstrong - Lincolnshire
Baines - Manchester / Selattyn Shropshire
Kempster - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr
Pugh - Corwen Merionethshire
Wright - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr

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Re: 1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 18:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jeannette

...but who is the head of the household?  Does it say? ???
Saunders  Norfolk and Suffolk.  Barkway and Barkaway - anywhere.
Mottershall anywhere
Ellis Clerkenwell/Camberwell
Saunders, Woodrow, Leggett, Potter Norfolk
Stacey, Booth, Pennington, Graham, Bennett, Hall, Mawson West Yorkshire
Cooper Cheshire/West Yorkshire
King, Sanger, Hiscock, Gray Wiltshire/Dorset/Hampshire
Barton, Ivett, Minns Cambridgeshire
Palfrey Suffolk
Cox, Crew, Burry Middlesex/Hertfordshire
Burrows Essex

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Re: 1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 19:42 BST (UK) »
That is all it says on the census for that household, it does seem abit strange....

J
Davies - Montgomeryshire
Edwards - Selattyn Shropshire
Jones - Llangollen Denbighshire
Harris - Llangollen  Denbighshire/ Cardiganshire
Humphreys - Oswestry / Whittington Shropshire
Pearce - Kent
Gould - Essex / Kent
Phillips - Cefn Mawr
Armstrong - Lincolnshire
Baines - Manchester / Selattyn Shropshire
Kempster - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr
Pugh - Corwen Merionethshire
Wright - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr


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Re: 1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 20:02 BST (UK) »
May have found alittle more for you, as Ronchetti is a unusual name....


1871:

Joseph Ronchetti 1810 Coma, Italy Head Occ Jeweller
Mary Ann Ronchetti 1814  Yeadon, Yorkshire, England Wife
Anne Victoria Ronchetti 1843  Yorkshire, England Daughter 
Maria Ronchetti 1845  Yorkshire, England Daughter
Elizabeth Ronchetti 1848  Yorkshire, England Daughter   
Sophia Ronchetti 1849  Yorkshire, England Daughter
 
Living at 11 Parliamont St, York

RG10/4745 Folio 59 Pg 12

1881:

Mary A. Ronchetti 1817  Yeadon, Yorkshire, England Head Occ Annuitant
Hannah Gee 1811  Leeds, Yorkshire, England Sister Occ Loding House keeper
Elizabeth Ronchetti 1851  Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England Daughter Occ Annuitant

Living at 9 Esplanade Gar, Scarborough

RG11/4804 Folio 70 Pg 12

Jeannette



Davies - Montgomeryshire
Edwards - Selattyn Shropshire
Jones - Llangollen Denbighshire
Harris - Llangollen  Denbighshire/ Cardiganshire
Humphreys - Oswestry / Whittington Shropshire
Pearce - Kent
Gould - Essex / Kent
Phillips - Cefn Mawr
Armstrong - Lincolnshire
Baines - Manchester / Selattyn Shropshire
Kempster - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr
Pugh - Corwen Merionethshire
Wright - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr

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Re: 1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 22:39 BST (UK) »
I think you've struck Gold Jeanette, they are obviously all the same family -quite what was going on in 1861 we'll never know!  Many thanks for your help.
Brian
Saunders  Norfolk and Suffolk.  Barkway and Barkaway - anywhere.
Mottershall anywhere
Ellis Clerkenwell/Camberwell
Saunders, Woodrow, Leggett, Potter Norfolk
Stacey, Booth, Pennington, Graham, Bennett, Hall, Mawson West Yorkshire
Cooper Cheshire/West Yorkshire
King, Sanger, Hiscock, Gray Wiltshire/Dorset/Hampshire
Barton, Ivett, Minns Cambridgeshire
Palfrey Suffolk
Cox, Crew, Burry Middlesex/Hertfordshire
Burrows Essex

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Re: 1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 September 05 12:02 BST (UK) »
Might be of Interest to you.
Joseph Ronchetti married Mary Ann Gee 1842 Knaresborough.
My email address is no longer working sorry
Adamson,St.Paul,Crawford,Rankmore,Walmsley,Potts,Stephenson,Waters.
Yorkshire,Somerset.

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Re: 1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 September 05 12:41 BST (UK) »
I have found this family in 1861 Ref: RG9/3546 folio 42 page 12

Joseph Ronchette           1810 Italy      Head   Jeweller
Mary Ann Ronchette       1825 Yeddon  Wife
Mary Ann Ronchette       1845 York        Dau
Sophia Ronchette           1849 York        Dau
Elizabeth Ronchette       1846 York        Dau
Joseph Ronchette           1852 York        Dau

Sarah Milner                    1841 Leeds    Serv.

They were living in Parliament St. St Sampson, York.

Lizzie
My email address is no longer working sorry
Adamson,St.Paul,Crawford,Rankmore,Walmsley,Potts,Stephenson,Waters.
Yorkshire,Somerset.

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Re: 1861 Census York - Ronchetti
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 September 05 13:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lizzie
There are more questions than answers!  It would seem highly likely that these families are linked if not the same.  The wives being Mary Ann from Yeddon/Yeadon having different ages throws things - otherwise I would assume that Thomas was at school in Scarborough being looked after by his aunt Hannah in 1861.  There seems to be a link between Scarborough and York so perhaps it was living above the shop in York and a home in Scarborough.  I spent some time looking at BMD's last night and this would imply (never trust speculation!) that they are the same family and also Joseph jr went to Stockton on Tees as did Thomas.  I am well on the way to a tree and then have just to gather the primary evidence to prove it.  Thankyou both for your help.  Next I will look at The Historical Directories site to see if it throws any light on the situation!
Brian ;D
Saunders  Norfolk and Suffolk.  Barkway and Barkaway - anywhere.
Mottershall anywhere
Ellis Clerkenwell/Camberwell
Saunders, Woodrow, Leggett, Potter Norfolk
Stacey, Booth, Pennington, Graham, Bennett, Hall, Mawson West Yorkshire
Cooper Cheshire/West Yorkshire
King, Sanger, Hiscock, Gray Wiltshire/Dorset/Hampshire
Barton, Ivett, Minns Cambridgeshire
Palfrey Suffolk
Cox, Crew, Burry Middlesex/Hertfordshire
Burrows Essex