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Offline Bentleybgrant

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Need help deciphering 1699 Scottish Death Cert
« on: Tuesday 14 September 21 04:14 BST (UK) »
Thomas Grib died in Edinburgh 27.10.1699.  Any help what is written on the entry would be greatly appreciated. 

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Re: Need help deciphering 1699 Scottish Death Cert
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 September 21 18:54 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.

I believe it transcribes as:

...wifer* por warnt wast and kirk

* This could be:  wiser

I don't have a clue what it means but other members have expertise in Scots language and customs so with luck someone will be along to explain.

ADDED:

Possibly:  ...wast end kirk...

Burial location?

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Re: Need help deciphering 1699 Scottish Death Cert
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 September 21 00:49 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat!

Yes, I think it looks more like 'Wast end kirk" HD.

The entry above also says 'poor warnt'.
Are there lots of entries on this page that say this Bentley?
It may help to decide what it might mean.
Perhaps you could post a slightly larger clip for comparison.

The Dictionary of the Scots Language gives 'warnt' as a variation of ''warrant'
https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/warrand_n

So maybe 'by warrant'?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: Need help deciphering 1699 Scottish Death Cert
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 September 21 02:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the help.  Here is some more of the page

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Re: Need help deciphering 1699 Scottish Death Cert
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 September 21 08:50 BST (UK) »
thomas grib wifer por warnt wast end kirk

= Thomas Gribb, weaver, (by a) poor warrant, (buried at the) west end (of the) kirk.

The date may be that of burial  rather than death.

Thomas, a weaver, was made a burgess of Edinburgh on 2nd January 1684, as having been apprenticed to the late James Lawson, himself a weaver and burgess.

https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso46scotuoft/page/n229/mode/2up

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Re: Need help deciphering 1699 Scottish Death Cert
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 September 21 09:56 BST (UK) »
GR2. A Massive thank you. 

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Re: Need help deciphering 1699 Scottish Death Cert
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 September 21 10:44 BST (UK) »
GR2. A Massive thank you.