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Ancestry's Ethnicity Update Is Finally Here - Share Yours!
« on: Friday 17 September 21 19:38 BST (UK) »
Well, it has arrived and I am... not very impressed!

Old ethnicity estimate for my mother:

England & Northwestern Europe 53%
Your communities with a connection to this ethnicity region:
- Central Southern England
- Yorkshire & East Midlands, England
- Lincolnshire

Scotland 27%
Germanic Europe 7%
Sweden 5%
Wales 4%
Ireland 2%
Norway 2%

The genetic communities were very accurate but I was hoping that the "Scotland" estimate would go down as my mother has absolutely no Scottish heritage; her mother was from Lincolnshire and had links to Yorkshire as well but that's a long way away from Scotland! The family of my mother's father was primarily from Somerset and Wiltshire, with a little bit of Berkshire (hence the central southern England).

New ethnicity update:

England & Northwestern Europe 47%
Your communities with a connection to this ethnicity region:
- Same as above

Scotland 37%
Sweden & Denmark 11%
Norway 5%

Well, the Scotland estimate got even worse! Clearly there is an issue around the north of England being conflated with the south of Scotland, which I suppose is understandable as I doubt people cared much about borders way back when. Wales and Ireland have disappeared, which is more accurate. Germanic Europe has been replaced by Sweden & Denmark and Norway.

For reference, all my mother's great-grandparents are English but one was adopted, with currently unknown parentage.

Would be interested to hear how everyone else's ancestry estimate has changed and whether it has become more or less accurate!

Queenie  :)

Disclaimer: I know ethnicity estimates should always be taken with a pinch of salt as the technology is in its infancy and DNA databases are constantly growing and shifting but this is just for fun and interest.

Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 September 21 19:47 BST (UK) »
Well, my Welshness has gone up from 75% to 88% and my Scottish/Irish is now 12%. They also give me traces of Mid West US (Ohio) and England Midlands and NW. So that's over 100%, So, it's all +/-

In fact, the same regions but I've just got more Welsh  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 September 21 19:56 BST (UK) »
Well, my Welshness has gone up from 75% to 88% and my Scottish/Irish is now 12%. They also give me traces of Mid West US (Ohio) and England Midlands and NW. So that's over 100%, So, it's all +/-

In fact, the same regions but I've just got more Welsh  ;D ;D ;D

That's interesting, do you know of any Scottish/Irish ancestors? Or are all your lines Welsh?

Queenie  :)
Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 September 21 19:59 BST (UK) »
Not trying to outdo anybody, but mine are even less impressive!

To Summarise:-
Old Ethnicity
Irish 79%
Scottish 21%

New Ethnicity
Irish 80%
Scottish 20%

All that for a '1% swing'!!  Though to be fair, I think that my estimates were and are likely fairly accurate, being, probably, nearly 100% Irish, but the Irish from the Ulster counties of Derry/Antrim/Tyrone etc., being pretty indistinguishable from those from Southwest/Cental Scotland, due to  the mass movement from Ireland to Scotland in the 19th century, as well as movement back and forward for a millenium or two!!

However, without a doubt I am underwhelmed!

Jane
Allison - Rumford Stirlingshire & Ireland
Quinn - Rumford, Glasgow, Monklands & Tyrone
Convoy - Rumford, Monklands & Tyrone
Burke - Glasgow, Clifden Galway
Duffy - Cleland Lanarkshire, Monklands, Falkirk, Ireland
Curran - Cleland, Ireland
Reynolds - Cleland, Shettleston, Tollcross, Antrim
McDermott - Cleland, Shotts, (London)Derry


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 September 21 20:03 BST (UK) »
My last estimate was closer to my known ancestral makeup  than this one. (75 - 25).

It just reflects their database. I tend to stick to my sourced tree than Ancestry's ethnicity estimates. 
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 September 21 20:03 BST (UK) »
Not trying to outdo anybody, but mine are even less impressive!

To Summarise:-
Old Ethnicity
Irish 79%
Scottish 21%

New Ethnicity
Irish 80%
Scottish 20%

All that for a '1% swing'!!  Though to be fair, I think that my estimates were and are likely fairly accurate, being, probably, nearly 100% Irish, but the Irish from the Ulster counties of Derry/Antrim/Tyrone etc., are pretty indistinguishable from those from Southwest/Cental Scotland, due to  the mass movement from Ireland to Scotland in the 19th century, as well as movement back and forward for a millenium or two!!

However, without a doubt I am underwhelmed!

Jane

You may be underwhelmed but big swings from one ethnicity to another often indicate inaccuracy so looks like your estimate is rather good! Unlike my mother, who seems to have developed a Scandinavian great-grandparent overnight!  ;D

Queenie  :)
Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 September 21 20:06 BST (UK) »
It just reflects their database. I tend to stick to my sourced tree than Ancestry's ethnicity estimates.

Agreed.

Queenie  :)
Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 September 21 20:13 BST (UK) »
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, but the Irish from the Ulster counties of Derry/Antrim/Tyrone etc., are pretty indistinguishable from those from Southwest/Cental Scotland, due to  the mass movement from Ireland to Scotland in the 19th century, as well as movement back and forward for a millenium or two!!

I think that's where the Scots/Irish portion comes from. They were mainly from Galloway, with the earlier ones having some Irish roots. My (insert- direct line) tree suggests approx 75% Welsh, 20% Scots/Irish and 5% Shropshire, Cheshire & Midlands.

Add - so is this the increased precision that they promised - cor, I'm really impressed (Not).
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 September 21 20:32 BST (UK) »
Ohio would be what ethnic group?  Shawnee?  Kickapoo?  Iroquois?
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis