Alexander stewart,Belfast, living and died in Canada

[Jon_ni]

Dean
To be clear I'm not suggesting the 1923 marriage is not him, I was just beginning to wonder if the entry of father William was true on it, it is not unknown for an illegitimate child to invent a father's name on their marriage cert.

In the period 1892 to 1900 there are only 4 births of an Alexander Stewart with a father William
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02172/1822692.pdf 1895 in Derry
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02175/1823601.pdf 1896 in Ballybrick, Banbridge District
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02142/1813241.pdf 1896 in Belfast father a Cooper
and https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02043/1782381.pdf 1899 in Belfast father a Labourer

all have been discussed, the final one died as a child. The only R.C appeared to be the Cooper.

and searching for unknown [unnamed] male Stewart 1895-1900 only one with a father William was born 1898 Belfast
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02087/1795923.pdf who turns out to be a Thomas http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward__Belfast_Clifton_/Garston_Street/131706/

[*Sandra*]

 

To clarify -

The wife of Alexander and his son Terence (born 1924) never went to Canada ?

Where did the wife and child live after Alexander went to Canada ?

Did Alexander ever return home ?  Did he send money home to support wife and child ?

Did his wife remarry ?

Everything so far has proved negative.

Did find a death for an Alexander Stewart in 1958 Montreal. Job wise he could have fitted the bill.
A retired inspector of investigation with the Canadian National Railways.  However, joined the CNR police force in Montreal in 1924 and sadly was born 1892 Inverness Scotland 
Interesting guy.  Had escorted King George VI and Queen Elizabeth on there Canadian tour before WW2, a three time security officer to Winston Churchill on his trips to Canada and acted in the same capacity for President Eisenhower, Queen Juliana of the Netherlands and President Roosevelt.

Sandra

[eileenwilson]

Thanks Jon for that explanation ... at least we're better able to understand the situation.  I know you can get RIC records -- is it also possible to get the service records for the RUC?

[Jon_ni]

is it also possible to get the service records for the RUC

Eileen, I didn't know the answer to that, only about the former/older RIC ones on Ancestry & Findmypast.
Turns out one can from the RUC museum in Knock, Belfast.
http://homepage.eircom.net/~oflannery/ca/ipolice/RUC.htm
https://www.psni.police.uk/inside-psni/our-history/police-museum/ per their genealogy page https://www.psni.police.uk/inside-psni/our-history/genealogy/ we can search for individuals and supply their service record at a charge of £25 per search.

John

[Jon_ni]

Sandra

To clarify -
1) The wife of Alexander and his son Terence (born 1924) never went to Canada ?
2) Where did the wife and child live after Alexander went to Canada ?
3) Did Alexander ever return home ?  Did he send money home to support wife and child ?
4) Did his wife remarry ?

answering from the Antrim board comments you linked to in reply #4 above.
1) correct, wife Margaret & children remained in Belfast. Dean says he believes Alexander went alone to Canada #31 (and #9 this thread).
2) at 21 Rockmore Road, Belfast, Margaret's mother's home ref reply #6 & 21, noting that Margaret's mother Catherine married a Thomas Hutchinson after her first husband Terence died.
3) currently unknown if sent money [Dean?], thought seems to be parents separated; wife's 1965 death notice still says beloved wife of late Alexander #21. Wife Margaret is presumably buried in Millfield R.C. Cemetery, Belfast tel. 028 9061 3972 (is not in the Belfast Council's City Cemetery which is practically adjacent to Rockmore Road BT12 7PD).
4) no STEWART- February 12, 1965, at the Mater Hospital, MARGARET...

[*Sandra*]

No positive sighting on a passenger list ?  Haven't come across anything in Montreal papers.

Perhaps the 1931 Canadian census will show Alexander Stewart/Stuart when it is released - 2023 hopefully ?

Pretty evasive at the moment.

Sandra

[Dean Wells]

Hello,once again thank you all so much,I actually got hold of a copy of my grandad wedding certificate yesterday(my grandad being Terence),son of Alexander,the wedding was 1943 in Kidderminster,England.Alexander is listed as a railway plate fitter in Canada,my grandad Terence and his mother both stayed in Belfast when Alexander went to Canada

[Dean Wells]

Hello,the illegitimate birth could well be a possibility,as his birth and family are such a mystery,although my grandad Terence did used to say that Alexander's dad was called William,but I suppose they could just have told my grandad this to hide the real truth.my grandad Terence was definite that Alexander went to Canada to look for work and stayed there until he died.

[eileenwilson]

Are we all agreed that Alexander Stewart who arrived in 1926 is the right guy? 

Outbound record for one Alexander Stewart gives his address as the Leopold Street Barracks, Belfast. Aboard the Caledonia bound for New York.  Incoming into New York indicates he was from Magherafelt, Co. Derry; gives father James as next of kin at home, bound for Camden, New Jersey.

Second Alexander Stewart arrives June 1926 in Canada aboard the Aurania -- he is the one who names his mother as Mrs. J. Stewart in Culmore, Londonderry and who we found born 1895.  His outbound record gives his address as 4 Clifton Street, Belfast and gives his occupation as farmer, aged 28.

Does the first one not sound more plausible given the RUC connection?