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Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 04:01 BST (UK) »
I am wishing to trace the decedents of William Turner (potter) of Longton 1762-1835. His father was the potter John Turner of Lane End whom I have good information on. It's been 16 years now and I have only managed to get forward a generation or so. I have never been able to trace what happened to the descendants of this brother of my GGGrandfather (John Turner the younger).
(Please note that Lane End is now known as Longton).

The details that I have are:
• Married Elizabeth Wright (1776-1835) on 12 Oct 1799. Her father John may be connected to the Wrights of Eyam Hall but I could never establish a link. He may have been a banker of Stafford.

Surviving children:
• Mary Ann Turner 1801-1878 - no children.
• John Turner 1803-? May not have survived.
• Sarah Turner 1806-1881 married William Palmer 1831 Stoke. They lived in Hanley. 6 children 

Other births to Sarah:
• William Turner Palmer 1833-1872 (nothing else known)
• Henry Palmer 1835-1881 married Clara Atkin 1880 (Burton on Trent ref 6b 449 Henry Palmer / Clara Atkin). Child: Elsie Maud Palmer 1882-1965. (No Children).
• Frederick Palmer who married Ellen Johnson 1864 Hartshill. Frederick had 6 children including Ada Sarah who married Theophilus Hughes 1889 Newcastle.
• Martin Charles Palmer 1838-1873 (I don't think ever married)

The 1851 Census finds her at Edmund St. Hanley with William Palmer 55 as head working as Registrar of BDM Hanley. Sons William 19 Architect & Surveyor b, Shelton ... Henry 18 Writing Clerk b. Shelton ... Frederick 14 b. Shelton ... Martin 13 b. Shelton. They also had a 24yo servant.

The 1871 Census reveals she was receiving a Annuity. Living in her home (26 Church St Hanley) were her 3 sons Martin (architect), Henry (Timber Merchant) & William (architect) (all were over 30+). There was also a 6yo Nephew (b. Newcastle) and a maid.

Ernest Eric Young married, 1912, Elsie Maud, daughter of Col. H. Palmer, J.P., V.D.

Any help in this search would be greatly appreciated.

Staffordshire: Turner, Emery, Hyde & Markland
Lancashire: Stirrup, Cloweth
London: Fountain,
Devon: Devonshire, Webb
Stirling: Wingate, 
Australia: Fountain, Turner, Solah, Paskins, Brookfield, Cowle, Trondsen

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Re: Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 05:01 BST (UK) »
There is a burial for a John Turner age 5 at Longton on Oct 19th 1809

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Re: Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 05:11 BST (UK) »
There is a William Turner baptism 23 June 1807
Do you know what happened to him?

A tree has a marriage at Wolstanton 11 Jan 1832 and the 1851 census does have a William Turner age 42 born Longton. A Potter.
Quite a few children. But perhaps you have already ruled him out since you don’t mention him.

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Re: Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 05:22 BST (UK) »
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Martin Charles Palmer 1838-1873 (I don't think ever married)
Martin Charles Palmer seems to say he was married in the 1871 census.
And there is a marriage Stoke on Trent  (St Peter’s)  1865
Martin Charles Palmer, 27, architect, Church st Hanley, father William Palmer a Miller
Mary Turner, 24, Stafford st, Shelton, father Charles Turner, Hotel Keeper

Added, witnesses Charles Turner and Ellen Dinah Turner


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Re: Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 06:00 BST (UK) »
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Frederick Palmer who married Ellen Johnson 1864 Hartshill. Frederick had 6 children including Ada Sarah who married Theophilus Hughes 1889 Newcastle.

The nephew, William Henry Palmer in 1871 is their child I think.

PALMER, WILLIAM  HENRY     JOHNSON 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 187


He married Anne Ellen Hayward 29 Sept 1885  he is a clerk, she is a Barmaid

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Re: Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 07:16 BST (UK) »
Did you get the will of William Turner who died 1835 Lane End Staffordshire.
Listed under Diocese of Litchfield and Coventry.

It may list his surviving children

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Re: Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 07:47 BST (UK) »
Did you get the will of William Turner who died 1835 Lane End Staffordshire.
Listed under Diocese of Litchfield and Coventry.

It may list his surviving children

It is an administration :-(
However.....Firmly bound are John Turner and John Palmer both of Lane End and William Palmer of Hanley

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Re: Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 08:03 BST (UK) »
Sounds like a family connection

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Re: Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 08:32 BST (UK) »
John (a Potter) is named as the son of William in the Administration documents.

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