Descendants of William Turner. Where are they?

[Old-Bonez]

Thankyou mckha489. I'll post this now before it gets too long.
• Your first reply of John Turner aged 5. That fits in very well however where did you obtain the Age as my John Turner would have just turned 6.
• 2nd reply. That william Turner is the son b.16 Jun 1807 (I have no death) that married Charlotte Jones 11 Jun 1832. I have 7 births to them apparently all around Normacott with no idea of what happened to them.
The 1851 census age 42 comment is interesting as my math would have him at 44 but it depends at what time of year it was taken.
• Martin Charles Palmer is the 5th born of William Palmer who married Sarah Turner 14th July 1831. Sarah is the 3rd born of Elizabeth Wright & Willian Turner There is a family plot in Hanley (lot A221). I have his father as a Timber Merchant and your 1871 census info has him as a Miller .... Hmmmm.
I don't know how to fit in your Mary Turner 24 information or Charles Turner. That may be interesting to chase up.
• William Henry Palmer. This is also interesting and needs chasing up.

[Old-Bonez]

Thank you amondg.
No I do not have his will but from bits and pieces it appears that five survived to adulthood.
I have 6 children:
Mary Ann 1801-1878 never married
John 1803-1809 age 6
Sarah 1806-1881 married William Palmer 4 surviving children
William 1807-? married Charlotte Jones in 1823 Wolstanton
Elizabeth 1815-? Died young
Harriet 1818-1848

Apparently Mary Ann left money in her will for a memorial to be built for her two sisters that died young. I have never found a Memorial to them.

[amondg]

See the reply by Bumble Bee.

The bondsmen for the administration of the estate of William Turner 1836, the John Turner is named as his SON.
The John Palmer and William Palmer are relations of daughter Sarah.

Therefore the John who died age 5 is not yours.

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The age at death is a transcription on ancestry

[amondg]

William (1807) of William and Elizabeth died 20 December 1868 Normacott, the probate was not until 7 December 1877 and administration was given to his  son Martin.

Charlotte died 1867 Normacott.

1871 census 4 of their children who are unmarried are living together in Normacott.
Elizabeth 38, John 30, Martin 24, Henry 20.

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Walter John had married Clara Cooke 1863, he died 4 January 1871 probate 31 January 1873 to Clara.

Guess she had to complete probate as Clara married her brother in law Henry Turner, Walter's youngest brother 10 March 1873 at St Michael, Stone. Her father listed as James Cooke.
1881 census Stone, the first 4 children William H 17, Lizzie 14, Mary A 12 and Walter J 10 are Walter's children. Fred 7, Harry 5 Minnie 1 are Henry's.

[Old-Bonez]

Thank you 'amondg'.
Yes his son "John" who I do not have in my tree applied for his estate which was valued at £100 (from memory).
So who was he???
I have a John listed as b.1803 d.1809 which was mentioned earlier in these replies. Have I missed another birth?
Looking at the 6 children there is a gap in the births from 1807 to 1815 so it is quite possible that there was another birth in that time frame. So if they lost a child named John in 1809 then it is likely that a new son would be called John. That was happening in a previous generation of the Turner line.  Williams father and brother was named John. "If you Google Turner of Lane End" you will find that as potters they were well respected at the time.

Thanks for the death info on Charlotte. It is obvious that the families didn't move around much. I have been lucky enough to have obtained information by a researcher who was writing a book called "Staffordshire Women". Chapter 8 was all about Mary Ann Turner. Here is an extract from her research which she sent me which is where I obtained much of my information.

"They appear in the 1851 and 1861 censuses. In 1851 they just gave the enumerator their initials - daughter `E`, 18, a dressmaker, and sons `W`, 16, `W`, 14, `F`, 12, `J`, 9, `M`, 3 and `H`, 6 months. By 1861 we have the full names - Charlotte is the wife and the children are Elizabeth, William, Walter, John, Martin and Henry - all 10 years older of course. `F` seems to have died or been elsewhere.  Father William was a potter, as were sons William and John. Walter was a `potter`s warehouseman` and Elizabeth was still a dressmaker. The others were `scholars`. As Mary Ann left £550 to Elizabeth and £50 to Martin, listing them as children of her brother William, I`m pretty sure that is the right household. What Mary Ann had against her other nephews I`m not sure - maybe she thought they were doing well enough not to need her money - or maybe she just didn`t like them much!