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Mary wall information from clare
« on: Tuesday 05 October 21 13:42 BST (UK) »
Hi guys

I'm looking for information on a Mary wall from clare not sure exactly clonlasa or clonlara who married a martin curtin from kilkishen co clare
Looking to know who her parents are etc siblings etc any information would be great thanks

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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 15:46 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat. 

Could we have some dates please
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 15:58 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me also.  :)

There is a marriage here - is this your couple?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11234/8118712.pdf

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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 16:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the lovely welcome to the two of you.
Not sure if I'm writing this in the right area still getting used to this site.
Rosie we think Mary wall born around 1852 and died 23rd june 1907 in clonlea graveyard kilkishen.
Heywood thank you so much for the wedding certificate so greatly appreciated.
John wall and hanora hickey is that who her mum and dad are according to the wedding certificate? Is there a way I can find out  who her siblings  were and what's her grandmother name?
Thanks 

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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 07:21 BST (UK) »
Her father is shown as deceased on the marriage certificate.
The witnesses are John Malley and Hanora Hickey.

This looks like her father’s death. The residence is Coolderra, the same as the marriage certificate and daughter,Mary,  is the informant.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1871/020769/7286105.pdf

It says he is married so mother must still be alive in 1871.
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 07:39 BST (UK) »
Where do you have Mary after her marriage?

1901 census shows a James Wall in Cloonlara which you mention

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Kiltenanlea/Cloonlara/1083225/

And also James Walle in Coolderry (mentioned earlier). The two places are close.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Cloghera/Coolderry/1082679/

This one married Ellen Ryan and his father shown as John (not noted as deceased but that is not always shown)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11303/8146916.pdf

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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 07:46 BST (UK) »
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 09:35 BST (UK) »
 Morning Heywood the Census you got in 1901 and 1907 are correct.
Wall no e in her name.
John wall and hanora hickey do you think that's her parents from the 1st  marriage certificate you sent? I dont have anyone after Mary wall thats where I'm stuck.  I wasent sure if her dad was James.
The malley is relating to martin curtin on that wedding piece of paper that's his mum side so I say it could be correct.
Mary wall married curtin in kilkishen.
So maybe hanora hickey is her mum and a John wall?

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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 09:49 BST (UK) »
The 10 Feb.1874 marriage gives Hanora Hickey as a witness & is unlikely to be her mother (father died 11 Apr.1871 so unless mother remarried right after his death her surname would not be Hickey).

Death for a widow Norah Wall, widow of a James Wall (marriage gave Mary Wall's father as John)- born c1804-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1890/06101/4741284.pdf
It's possible Mary Wall's moved elsewhere after the death of her husband. However, it's also possible that the information on the death certificate is incorrect (son James Wall was informant so perhaps his Christian name put down for deceased husband).
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