Birth of Harry Jolly

[Lesleyann]

I've failed to find a birth record for Harry Jolly who was born in 1885 in Bungay, Suffolk. I have his marriage certificate to Alice Flatt in 1907 where it states his father is John Jolly, a general labourer. I cannot find him on the 1891 or 1901 censuses but I have him in 1911 with wife, Alice and son Harry Morris Jolly. I also have him on the 1939 register. Harry's granddaughter is sure Harry had no siblings.  He was in the Hussars from 1914 until 1920 and died in 1940. I'd be grateful for any help here as I'm about to give Harry up as a lost cause!

Lesleyann

[carol8353]

Is this him?

Henry James Jolly Dec qtr 1886 Hartismere RD
Volume: 4a  p738

[Lesleyann]

No, it's not him.  He was plain Harry with no other names. His granddaughter is sure of this and, if you follow the census entries for Henry James, it is a different family altogether. Thanks for trying.

Lesleyann

[rosie99]

Deleted - sorry wrong post

[Ashtone]

I have his marriage certificate to Alice Flatt in 1907 where it states his father is John Jolly, a general labourer.

What is his address on the 1907 marriage cert? Also, who are the witnesses? Sometimes the address and/or witness name(s) can provide clues as to a mystery person's origin.

[softly softly]

Whilst not answering your original post do you know about his son Stanley

JOLLY, STANLEY  THOMAS     mmn FLATT 
GRO Reference: 1912  S Quarter in DEPWADE  Volume 04B  Page 390

Stanley married 9.11.1935 Wynmondham. His father recorded as just Harry Jolly-occ Team/Tram Man
Image on Ancestry

John

[Ashtone]

Given that the elder Jolly son (who appears with parents in the 1911 census) was apparently born in Aldershot, I'm wondering if Harry was in the army prior to WW1. After all, his occupation on the census was "Groom To Officer (Soldier Servant)". On the census page, Harry (?) originally wrote "Henry" then crossed it out.

Interestingly, there was a William Jolly (also from Bungay) who enlisted with the 4th Hussars in 1890.
His service record is on Fold3. Looks like he had been in a previous regiment, and enlisted with the Hussars in Dublin. I wonder if he was related to Harry.

[softly softly]

Lesleyann,

In 1911 Harry is in Houndslow. The below record shows a Henry Jolly also in Houndslow.

London, England, Overseer Returns, 1863-1894 for Henry Jolly

With all due respect I think ALL those that have posted have found the right man Henry James Jolly who was born in 1886. I know the 1939 register records 1885 but that register is often out by 1 year. Also I note that the John Jolly his father was also a Horse "Teamsman" on the 1881 census.

John

[Ashtone]

With all due respect I think ALL those that have posted have found the right man Henry James Jolly who was born in 1886.

Ancestry has a family tree which also indicates that the OP's Harry is also Henry James Jolly (of Burgate, Suffolk). The tree also has photos of Harry/Henry and his wife Alice.