Would like your opinion please

[Helina]

William Joseph Joy 1865-1935 born in Bitton Gloucestershire married to Clara Packer 1863-1932 in 1885,

According to the 1911 census they had 3 children all alive
Minnetta May Joy born 1886 in Bitton
Janette Gertrude Joy born 1887 Oldland

The only other child I can find on the GPO site is
Florence Nellie Joy born 1892 in Lambeth London.  She is not living with the family in any of the census, but there is a marriage in 1923 in Oldland between a Henry Napier Hicks and Florence Joy, bride's father William Joy.

In 1901 there is a Florence F Joy living with a William and Naomi Hiler in Oldland she is described as a niece.

I know that obtaining a birth certificate would answer my query but as this family is very distance I would like to look at other ways first

Am I going down a wrong line? 

Any advice would be appreciated

helina

[Helina]

Another factor the mother Clara and her 2 daughters are living in Lambeth London in 1891,
helina

[tonepad]

In the 1911 census William Joseph Joy is an Engineer working in Electrical Engineering.
In the marriage cert you posted he is an Electrician.

Would say they are the same person.


Tony

[Kay99]

At the moment having difficulty finding a marriage for William Hiler and Naomi but wonder whether she was your William Joy's sister and in 1881 is listed as Ellen Naomi Joy living in Bitton?
 
William Joy    50
Henrietta Joy    38
Clara Catherine Joy    17
Wm.Joseph Joy    15
Ellen Naomi Joy 9

Kay

[mckha489]

Do you know who that Joy witness is?

[Kay99]

Ah - found the Hiler/Ellen Naomi Joy marriage!   His surname was Filer

25 March 1893 Bath - Naomi's father is listed as William Joseph Joy - Hatter   William Filer is a Butcher

Kay

[softly softly]

Could the witness possibly be George William T S Joy born 1882 keysham
John

[mckha489]

Could the witness possibly be George William T S Joy born 1882 keysham
John

think you are correct.

he married 1904 to Florence FILER

added his birth. - no mother's maiden name 

JOY, GEORGE  WILLIAM THOMAS SMITH   - 
GRO Reference: 1882  S Quarter in KEYNSHAM  Volume 05C  Page 641
 

[mckha489]

Bristol Baptism October 1882
His mother was Clara JOY spinster.