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Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« on: Monday 11 October 21 06:03 BST (UK) »
Hi, I am looking for the parents of Niels Hansen Holm ( my 4x Greatgrandfather) Niels was born in Kobenhavn? around 1741-1743 depending on which census you look at. ( 1787 or 1801) His Occupation was a Braendeviins Braender ( Schnapps Distiller) He was apparently married twice. I know Marie Olsen, born 1757? was one wife, they were the parents of my 3x Greatgrandfather Adolph Andreas Holm. I have no knowledge of his other wife? I have struggled a bit trying to find Niels parents, as there seems to be so many people called Niels Hansen Holm. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated, as I'm a bit lost. ??? Regards Christian.

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Re: Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 October 21 08:07 BST (UK) »
Kobenhavn?
what country is this please - will help us research

think this is him ? - no parents though


https://gw.geneanet.org/sadolin?n=holm&oc=6&p=niels+hansen

at least you have another child of Niels
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Re: Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 October 21 09:04 BST (UK) »
Copenhagen, Denmark


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Re: Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 October 21 12:53 BST (UK) »
Hi
This looks to be Niels Hansen's birth in Copenhagen, Vor Frue Parish - 3 Apr 1742:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=158934#158934,26709618

His 1st marriage - 31 Oct 1764 to Anna Rosina Pharrer:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17119855#158824,26683854

This is his first child Karen to Marie Olsdatter 19 Jul 1784- 3rd record up left page:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118439#156082,26129825

I cannot find his other marriage. If he was married in Nikolaj Parish then it won't be found as there are no books for those years.


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Re: Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 12:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ian, I appreciate your research skills ;D You've definitely found the right bloke. I had wondered if a lack of records was going to be against me. It looks like Niels parents names were Hans Christenson Holm and Anne Marie Holm? If I read the Birth certificate right. I wonder whether his first wife Anna died from disease or during child birth? I have seen that he had 7 children with his 2nd wife Marie.(thanks to you help earlier) Karen was the oldest and my 3x Greatgrandfather Adolph was the Youngest born in 1799. Many thanks, Regards Christian. ;)

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Re: Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 October 21 09:28 BST (UK) »
It looks like Niels parents names were Hans Christenson Holm and Anne Marie Holm? If I read the Birth certificate right.
Cheers Christian
His parents were Hans Christensøn Holm a tanner at Vestergade and wife Gunild Margrethe Nielsdatter Speilberg.
The other names are the godparents.

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Re: Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 October 21 09:37 BST (UK) »
This is Niels Hansen Holm's probate - nr 70. It is pretty long:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=21912897#431931,32936718

I needed help from a kind Dane to read it.

May 13,1807 in Lille Regnegade no.19b at former distiller Niels Hansen Holm had died same day.
He had been in an undivided estate since his wife, Marie Olsdatter, died 7 years earlier. Left behind
their children:
1. son Ole Nielsen 18
2. son Peder Nielsen 17
3. son Niels Nielsen 14
4. son Adolph Andreas Nielsen 9
5. daughter Karen ~ sergeant Poul Rhode
6. daughter Bolette 19 unmarried
7. daughter Johanne 15 unmarried


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Re: Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 October 21 09:40 BST (UK) »
Niels Hansen Holm's death 18 May 1807 - right page, 3rd record on 18th:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=157757#157757,26475135


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Re: Niels Hansen Holm: Parents??
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 October 21 12:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Ian, Fantastic research. Thank your Danish Friend from me also. I think you should have another star added to your rating!! There have certainly been a variety of trades within my family. I noted with interest how the use of "Nielsen and Datter" was used to indicate that they were the son or daughter of Niels. That type of naming was around in the Medieval times, and is how a lot of surnames were founded. Obviously Niels wife Marie was the daughter of Ole (Olsdatter)?? Previously I had seen her surname as Olsen, but now I am a bit unsure whether it was? or if it was a reference to a son?? Any clue? It may shed some light on who her parents were. Regards Christian :)