Roberts pre 1800s

[Hgreenla]

Ancestry has a transcript only for the 1836 baptism - no image. Identifies the source as "Salt Lake City - Family search".

Nothing in the parish records, for that one HT. Given all the details are the same, except for the year (1834 cf 1836},  I'd say it might be the old 'patrons submisssion' or similar.

What does this mean exactly?

[hanes teulu]

Gadget,
You or me to respond! At least some of us remember the distinction - and it was so much easier to distinguish in the old days.
HT

[Gadget]

It means that the 1836 one is wrong - HT to give full details, please.

Here's a snip of Ann's surname from the 1832 marriage entry. Also note that a Mary Roberts was a witness.

[Hgreenla]

Helen, where did you get the list of children that you gave earlier:

John 1850
Evan 1847
Robert 1845
William 1838

An 1851 census with Robert Roberts on it.  In Rhyl. Robert is a fireman in a steamer, he is 42
, Ann is 43

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG88-GGN

[Gadget]

Ah - was it the same one from 1841 - not a bricklayer.  I discounted as ages a bit out.

1941 HO107/1403/2/12/17  has ~

Church Street, Abergele, St Asaph RD.
Robert Roberts 25, Driver
Mary, 30
John, 9  b 1832
Sarah, 5 b 1836
William, 1 b 1839
Robert 3 months b 1841



Add - a quick search on GRO for Robert and William has probable  mother's mn as Jones

[Hgreenla]

Wow this line really isn't straightforward at all

[Gadget]

This is definitely the correct couple if your Sarah Ann(e) had a daughter Gwendoline


1871 - RG10/5669/67/8

Robert 64, bricklayer,
Ann, 64,
Sarah Anne Martin, 30
Gwendoline Martin, 1

[hanes teulu]

As I mentioned, chasing Roberts in N Wales is daunting - and that's an understatement, believe me.


Will PM you about "Contributed International Genealogical Index" or submitted records. Need a break at the moment!!
regards

[Gadget]

My line kept dropping - I've been re-looking at the baptism record of Sarah Ann - the transcripts show  both 1834 and 1836. However, they both link to the same entry in the register - the page is labelled 1836 on both