John Bigglane,1853-1904

[PhilGH]

Phew so much information to sift through. Thanks everyone.

are you sure John Patrick Biglane was Johns son ??

This is one of the few things I can be sure of as he’s on a list of burials in Newcastle-u-L as the son of John and Norah. He died at Burntwood Asylum, Lichfield.

[garstonite]

ah - in an Asylum - that would explain it then ...cheers

[PhilGH]

The inquest into the death of John Biglane, Staffordshire Sentinel, 24 Dec 1904, gave his age as 44.
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This is slightly curious. His burial record also shows 44. However the 1891 and 1901 census have him as 38 and 47 so I assume there’s been a misunderstanding somewhere. Not surprising given the emotional turmoil which must have being going on in the family at that time with the death of the son followed shortly after by the death of the father.

Thanks for pointing me at that Sentinel article. I knew he’d died in an accident at work but didn’t know the details. Sounds gruesome.

[hanes teulu]

Did you spot the item in the Staffordshire Advertiser, 11 Nov 1905, re Norah?

[PhilGH]

Did you spot the item in the Staffordshire Advertiser, 11 Nov 1905, re Norah?

Hanes Teulu - I can find an article for 11 February 1905 about the compensation awarded (£192 - worth about £25,000 today) but can’t find one for 11 November 1905.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

brilliant - Hanes Teslu
that would explain why the FIRST Biglane on freebmd isn't until 1858
looks like they came over from Ireland  ...great work ...explains a lot as well - enumerator getting the info from a broad Irish man / woman - probably wrote down as he heard it

I would be fairly sure the Bigleans and Big(g)lanes are the same family. There are all these burials  Wellington, All Saints

Michael Biglean    12 Aug 1849    Aged 25
Ellen Biglean    11 Jun 1852    Aged 23
Margaret Biglean    29 May 1854 Aged  16
James Biglean    10 Dec 1854 Aged 60 
Margaret Biglean    7 Jan 1855 Aged 58
John Biglean    28 Sep 1855     aged 57
Thomas Biglean    12 Apr 1856    Aged 1   [John's brother - both have mmn Scott]

Some of these turn up on the death registrations with different spellings, including Biglan

Some can be connected to the Byland/Bigland family in Wellington in 1851. Others may have come from Ireland between censuses (or indeed been noted here and then returned to Ireland)

As an example Thomas Henry in the 1851 census I found marries a Mary Biglean - she's b c1833 so not with the others on the 1851 census

I can't find any other Biglean/Scott births, which would suggest arrival in England or marriage around 1851/2 and one or both parent died around the time of  Thomas' birth

[hanes teulu]

Did you spot the item in the Staffordshire Advertiser, 11 Nov 1905, re Norah?

11 Feb it is - wonder where the Nov came from!