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elusive James Gilmour
« on: Saturday 06 November 21 07:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi, looking to find any information on James Gilmour's possible marriage, children & death in South Africa. A will was located in 1933 but many bits in it appear false. He was born 16 Sept 1874 Glasgow, Scotland and died 16 June 1933 Western Cape, SA. I found a grave in Gauteng for a 4 Yr old child Grace Gilmour d 1910 parents J & É Gilmour which I believe to be his daughter but no proof. Any assistance at all would be much appreciated. I have tried eGGSA, ancestry, familysearch with no success. Kim

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Re: elusive James Gilmour
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 November 21 10:01 GMT (UK) »

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Re: elusive James Gilmour
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 November 21 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi treespirit, Again thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Familysearch is where I found the info on his death & estate. Problem is he may have been single at the time of his death but he had children, of that I am certain. The kids maybe died young, that I'm unsure about. The estate papers do not explain alot so I'm trying to find more about him. He originally lived in Gauteng for years. Kim

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Re: elusive James Gilmour
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 November 21 11:12 GMT (UK) »
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... I found a grave in Gauteng for a 4 Yr old child Grace Gilmour d 1910 parents J & É Gilmour which I believe to be his daughter but no proof. ...

Death of Grace Darling Gilmore in 1910- unfortunately no parents listed-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91P-63S5-K?i=1157&cc=2998108
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: elusive James Gilmour
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 November 21 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Aghadowey, thank you for finding the death cert. Shame no parents but I shall look about to see if I can find anything else about her. Again, thanks. Kim

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Re: elusive James Gilmour
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 November 21 12:55 GMT (UK) »


It is possible that he was single at the time of his death and had children but never married the mother.  I found that had happened on my hubby's side of the family.  His grandfather never married his grandmother but they had 9 children together.  If he did not acknowledge them as his, it's possible they would not be mentioned on his estate etc.
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: elusive James Gilmour
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 November 21 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Silly dogs, thank you. That is so true. If the Grace that I found is a daughter maybe the children died young.There is so much about him that is hidden. It's infuriating. Kim

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Re: elusive James Gilmour
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 November 21 07:57 GMT (UK) »
a stab in the dark
Isabella Finlayson Gilmour - born 1912 South Africa - on geneanet - she married James Harris and David Harris has her in his family tree
https://gw.geneanet.org/kerrill?lang=en&p=isabella+finlayson&n=gilmour

try and research her - good luck ...
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: elusive James Gilmour
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 November 21 14:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that Garston ite. I will follow up on that-any lead may bring me some more pieces of the puzzle. Kim