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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 14 November 21 16:24 GMT (UK) »
hi again missed a comment in my last reply 

i think the margaret rowe? is surname browne

the very list of wills etc you have listed was what caused me to re think the marriage to sarah to henry horn

but was confused because  the witnesses are eliz. channer and william channer  , and robert clarke

so it was easy to think the eldest half brother of Sarah  and sister Eliz. being short for Elizabeth

i don't seem to have any channer link to Robert Clarke  is this the minister/ vicar at the time who signed records

I will re look for connections of a William and Eliz. Channer

I think you have pointed out my answer
because  Sarah channer was  not married when her father wrote the will
meaning marriage to henry horn was before 1786  it was not proved until 1793
and she  married  probably after her father died  1793.
perhaps family did not socially except marriage to him ,or because he was married before ( wid)
i will unlink this connection and see where she might fit in my vast channer  collections and trees not linked to my part of the channer family
thank you for helping me with this mystery.

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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 November 21 00:18 GMT (UK) »
hi
i am now following John Bates
did he marry Sarah Longsdale 9 th april 1809 Cheddington  bucks

has anyone found who he married before sarah channer ,  or
found a death for her  or for john bates

thank you

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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 November 21 07:04 GMT (UK) »
I cannot find a marriage of George Dodd to Ann Channer?

There is one of George Dodd of Cheney by license to Ann Chapman of Ivinghoe 14 September 1762.

So could George Dodd be brother in law as he is the brother of Frances who marries James Channer?  Answer YES

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Will of John Dodd Gent of Chenies written 14 May 1774 proved 1775. wife Sarah,
son George Dodd, daughters Elizabeth Lewis, Mary wife of Charles Stevens, and Frances wife of James Chennar.

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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 November 21 07:27 GMT (UK) »
Possible
John Bates of Ivinghoe to Charlotte Glenister wid by license 27 September 1787

John Glenister to Charlotte Bates 16 April 1781 at Cheddington.

Need to find deaths of John Glenister before 1787 and Charlotte Bates before 1793


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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #13 on: Monday 15 November 21 08:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi.

 There is a burial in Cheddington

 Charlotte Bates 30th June 1792        no age given
 John Glenister 8th Feb 1787 affidavit made       no age given

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Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #14 on: Monday 15 November 21 08:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
 John Bates and Charlotte baptised...

 Elizabeth 23 June 1788 loss buried 9th Sept 1788
 Christopher 24 June 1789
 Betsy 4 June 1791

 Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #15 on: Monday 15 November 21 08:57 GMT (UK) »
Are you following the Channer family or the Horn family? I don't want to look for Channer if it's Henry Horn's family you are related to.

If not Ref: The Genealogist
Apprenticeships 1725. Tuesday November 23rd.
John Sharp, Master - Tallow Chandler of ?? endine, apprentice Mathew Channer son of Mathew Channer of Chesham.

So when Mathew Jr. finishes his apprenticeship and marries poss Sarah Dell of Farnham Royal 29 July 1733 he moves to Ivinghoe although originally from Chesham.

The Sarah who marries Henry Horn 1776 may be originally from Chesham 

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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #16 on: Monday 15 November 21 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi
thank you
for more information on Mathew channer  JR,

Yes i think you are right Mathew Sen  is  probably from Chesham, his grandfather  ralph came in to Bristol England from France , but i think that was the way a lot of people left Europe ( or norwich)
so how they ended up in Buckinghamshire i do not know
my mums DNA showed traces of northern France along to Holland .

back to sarah channer
i have been unable in my records to identify  the sarah channer who married henry horn.

nearest i got was cliverous daughter 1739 Amersham  with a brother william but i have no link that i can spot to an ELIZA channer







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Re: Sarah Channer 1750
« Reply #17 on: Monday 15 November 21 14:47 GMT (UK) »
There is a will for John Bates 1815/1816 he is of Chipping Wycombe, a paper maker. Wife Sarah, brother George Bates and his wife Ann plus several nephews but no children.

As he was a paper maker I thought it would be of interest.

tazzie found the deaths of John Bates first wife Charlotte and her first husband.

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Maybe not as his wife Sarah also left a will 1829 and mentions her brother Richard Lau(s)dale.