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Education status
« on: Friday 19 November 21 11:13 GMT (UK) »
A family member was listed as a professor of drawing and art
But none of the search sites mention his education, lower or higher.
Has anyone any ideas on how I find out where he was educated, maybe university, etc
His name is John Blenkinsopp Leaton born 1825 Bidston
Married In Chester 1841
Listed as a Gentleman and professor on some documents.
His wife and himself ran a number of private schools in Chester 1850s onward.
His daughters Isabella and Florence also ran schools locally.
He died London 1886 while living with his son.

Any help would be appreciated
Regards Jenny
Blenkinsopp: Whickham & Co Durham
Leaton: Co Durham & Northumberland
Blenkinsopp Leaton: Co Durham & Northumberland & London.
Powell: London & Surrey
Vincent: St Oysth & London
Buckfield: Sutton Surrey & London,

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Re: Education status
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 November 21 11:23 GMT (UK) »
In earlier days anyone could call themselves "Professor" ;)
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Re: Education status
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 November 21 11:36 GMT (UK) »
In 1851 2172 /178/39 he is a Cabinet Maker as is his brother Valentine.
1861, John has a Private School.

I took a fancy to Valentine to search and he moves through various careers in the censuses - 1881, a Teacher of Drawing and 1891, he is a Professor of Music.
There is mention of both John and Valentine here , page 370, which seems to be them acquiring qualifications. You will get a better idea by looking back and forth in the document perhaps.
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Re: Education status
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 November 21 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Heywood
I have copied and added the awards to guys data
Valentine was awarded a book and a medal at the Manchester school of art and science
I can’t download them as they are to big too attach to this reply
I like to find out as much as possible about each tree member to get a flavour of their
Personality.
I have lots of old photos from early days of photography about 30 of the family,
no names on the back.
I have two persons who look very arty and maybe a bit eccentric. They are possibly the two brothers.
I think John (my great, great grandad) may have married a well educated lady, hence their
Aspirations in life. (Didn’t they do well)
Do you have the link to Valentine’s music attributes.
Thank you again
Regards Jenny
Blenkinsopp: Whickham & Co Durham
Leaton: Co Durham & Northumberland
Blenkinsopp Leaton: Co Durham & Northumberland & London.
Powell: London & Surrey
Vincent: St Oysth & London
Buckfield: Sutton Surrey & London,


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Re: Education status
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 November 21 13:17 GMT (UK) »
I only have censuses which you may already have.
Valentine in 1881 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27G-1V14

Valentine in 1891
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 November 21 13:50 GMT (UK) »
 Yes I have these census,
Thank you
Regards Jenny
Blenkinsopp: Whickham & Co Durham
Leaton: Co Durham & Northumberland
Blenkinsopp Leaton: Co Durham & Northumberland & London.
Powell: London & Surrey
Vincent: St Oysth & London
Buckfield: Sutton Surrey & London,

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Re: Education status
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 November 21 15:28 GMT (UK) »
A family member was listed as a professor of drawing and art
But none of the search sites mention his education, lower or higher.
Has anyone any ideas on how I find out where he was educated, maybe university, etc


In 1851 2172 /178/39 he is a Cabinet Maker as is his brother Valentine.
1861, John has a Private School.

I took a fancy to Valentine to search and he moves through various careers in the censuses - 1881, a Teacher of Drawing and 1891, he is a Professor of Music.
There is mention of both John and Valentine here , page 370, which seems to be them acquiring qualifications.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r2c/




Valentine was awarded a book and a medal at the Manchester school of art and science


There were very few universities in England, attended mainly by sons of well-off families. I doubt any of them taught art. Emphasis was on academic subjects.

The timing of John and Valentine gaining their art qualifications may be significant. Development of art schools in England accelerated after the Great Exhibition 1851, e.g. Lincoln School of Art.
Manchester School of Art was founded 1838 as a School of Design and re-designated School of Art 1853.
Several art schools began as Schools of Design, e.g. Leeds 1846.
Some art schools were originally Mechanics' Institutes. Mechanics included artisans and craftsmen. Mechanics' Institutes, which began in 1820s,  provided adult education for working men by way of lectures, classes and lending libraries. Liverpool School of Art began as Mechanics' School of Arts 1825, renamed Mechanics' Institute 1832. Subjects studied at evening classes included drawing.
Birmingham had an art academy from 1807, Royal Birmingham Society of Artists formed 1821, and the first municipal school of art in England.
A history of art education here:
https://www.artbiogs.co.uk/2/schools
Click name of an art school for information.

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