Bowles/Murless families

[Neale1961]

Both witnesses from State children's Dept, would indicate (to me at least) that Bertha was still in State care up to her marriage.
So mother Ellen/Helen/ Nellie/Sophia was gone - she had died or had married or was just not able to take care of Bertha.

[Neale1961]

Re the 1908 marriage and the NSW Guardian of Minors giving permission for the 17 year old to marry a 50 year old.   That NSW official was basically breaching his then duty of care if he accepted the word of the minor re her parentage.  He was required to carry out his own enquiries.

The William Ridley J.P the “Guardian of Minors”, who gave consent for Edith’s marriage, appears to be the same William Ridley, Deputy Registrar General who signed the marriage certificate.

[sparrett]

Is this death significant?

Ellen NORTH
16/05/1951
1951/B/32288
Mother Margaret Foster
Father Alfred BOWLES

Funeral Notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/50112243

Death of a son
John Benjamin North
01/04/1967
1967/B/88062
 Mother Ellen BOWLES
Father Alfred North

Sue

[majm]

Yes, there's phone conversations from my rellies not too many chaps by that name and as Dep Reg Gen. RIDLEY is not a name in my own tree. 

JM

[Neale1961]

Sad to say I have not made much progress with Ellen Bowles – here are some observations however ….

BOWLES in Bathurst: there are a few convicts / ex-convicts with the surname BOWLES in the Bathurst area in the mid-late 1850s. It is possible our Ellen was a child of one of them. Bathurst library or history centre might be able to help with baptisms that were not registered. Assuming Bathurst is correct or course, and not a lie.

The QLD state Archives has indexed an Ellen Bowles and John Bowles arriving Maryborough QLD onboard “ S S QUETTA” in 1886. When I look at the passenger list to find more information, I cannot find see them on it. Can anyone see / find what I cannot?

1903 QLD Electoral rolls has:
- William Radcliff BOWLER (selector) living on Adavale Road (Charleville electorate)
- John BOWLES (labourer) living at Spreadborough’s Selection (Charleville electorate)

[sparrett]

The QLD state Archives has indexed an Ellen Bowles and John Bowles arriving Maryborough QLD onboard “ S S QUETTA” in 1886. When I look at the passenger list to find more information, I cannot find see them on it. Can anyone see / find what I cannot?

 

This was a family.
Remittance passengers
BOWLES
John aged 29. Lab. Presbyterian. Read and write. b.Surrey
Ellen aged23. Presbyterian. Read and write. b.Surrey
Emma aged 2 . Presbyterian. b.Surrey
John. infant. Presbyterian. b.Surrey

To land Brisbane

Sue

ADDING
What would show on Ellen's prison record?
https://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/items/ITM282328

[wendish001]

ADDING
What would show on Ellen's prison record?
https://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/items/ITM282328

I have requested a digital copy of the prison record. I will share info once I get a copy - hopefully soon!

[sparrett]

If we are lucky, it will at the very least confirm her place of birth. 

Fingers crossed.

Sue

[wendish001]

I just want to say thankyou to everyone for helping me so far! I am really appreciative of it.