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Name on census
« on: Thursday 02 December 21 14:46 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to trace a death, but I am being hindered by not knowing the correct name. On the following extract from the 1901 census, I can make out the following:

Annie Bellinger         ???             ??    30     laundry
Elizabeth Bellinger    Daughter           14
William Bellinger       Son                  13
James Bellinger        Son                    5
J??                          Son                    2

I am not clear about Annie's marital status. Is she the "head" or "Wid"? Is it "W" or "M".

Even more problematically I am not sure of the name of the youngest child. Ancestry and FindMyPast differ on their interpretations and neither is convincing. I have tried looking up a birth at the appropriate time, but have not been lucky. Annie's maiden name was MUNDAY. I also know thanks to the 1911 census that this particular child had died, but once again I cannot find an appropriate death between 1901 and 1911. If you want to look at the original 1901 record it is located at RG13 485 21 33. To my untrained eye, I keep seeing female names, even though the child is clearly defined as male!

As always any help greatly appreciated

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Re: Name on census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Where did you get the mmn of Munday from?
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Name on census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:32 GMT (UK) »
From the GRO records of the birth of their children.

Elizabeth MUNDAY - illegitimate Q4 1885
Arthur William BELLINGER - legitimate Q2 1887

The father was Arthur Joseph BELLINGER. For a fuller explanation see my post yesterday in the thread concerning the wives of William Albert Bellinger. I have only recently discovered that Annie MUNDAY married both of the Bellinger brothers, Arthur and William.

I started by trying to track down Arthur Joseph Bellinger. Now that I know he married Annie Munday in 1886, I was hoping to track him by researching his children. In the 1911 census, Annie states that they had been married for 24 years, had 5 children, with four still being alive. Arthur doesn't appear on either the 1891, 1901 or 1911 censuses for some reason. Military? Imprisoned? Who knows!

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Re: Name on census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:34 GMT (UK) »
There are births with mmn Manklow.
E.g
James 1898 -  Manklow
Frederick 1901 March quarter mmn Manklow

And then
Frederick 1899 June quarter mmn Munday
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Re: Name on census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Don't think it is the MANKLOW births, as there is one quarter with births for BELLINGER with both MUNDAY and MANKLOW as separate entries.

I can't find the entry now, but I know I saw it when searching earlier.

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Re: Name on census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Greaves, as an aside from this post and your other post re Frederick Jewell/Joel you are probably aware that Frederick's mother Emily Jane Jewell married a Joseph Bellinger/Bellanger on the 10.6.1854 in Siddington.

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Re: Name on census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Possibly children from the marriage of Clara Manklow and John Samuel Bellinger.
So going back to your query, it looks like ‘Judri’ as you will know. Which child was born 1898/9? I can only see Frederick.  :-\
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Yes I know all about Emily Sarah JEWELL/JOEL. I also know that she abandoned Joseph BELLENGER in c1877 to run off to London with one James PARSONS and her younger children. In subsequent years they used the names PARSONS and BERRY, their sons used BELLINGER (var sp), BERRY, PARSONS and even BERRINGTON. Indeed it was under the name BERRINGTON that Arthur married Annie MUNDAY, the give away is that whenever one of the sons married - and some did it more than once - the witnesses were always James and Emily Sarah, using either PARSONS or BERRY surnames.

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Re: Name on census
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:50 GMT (UK) »
There were five children: Elizabeth, (Arthur) William, James, Judri and Frederick.

1891 features Elizabeth (5) and William (3).
1901 features Elizabeth (14), William (13), James (5) and Judri (2)
1911 features William (22), James (15) and Frederick (10)

There is a note on the 1911 return saying Elizabeth is away from home, so the dead child must be Judri.