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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 December 21 23:49 GMT (UK) »
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On the 1841 and 1851 census

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1851 census
George maggs age crossed out
Born 1784
Clapton Somerset
Residence west harptree
Wife Elizabeth maggs
Child Mary larner

1841 census
George maggs aged 45
Born 1796
Somerset
Res west harptree
Wife Elizabeth aged 45

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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 December 21 02:16 GMT (UK) »
I think the rounded down ages on 1841 census are incorrect.

Going by 1851 census George Maggs bc.1784 Clapton, Somerset and wife Elizabeth bc.1783 Chewton Mendip (not Chew Magna).

There were Pickerings in Chewton Mendip.

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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 December 21 10:34 GMT (UK) »
I was looking in the Parish records for midsomer Norton and there are no George maggs recorded as being born there in the 1780’s but there are 2 born around 1795 in the parish. So maybe it’s the 1851 census dates that are wrong

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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 December 21 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Just to be clear

Family 1

1841 - Towns-end, West Harptree

George Maggs    45 - ag lab
Elizh Maggs    45
Mary Maggs    15

HO107;  939; 12; 19;

George Maggs    67 - ag lab b Clapton
Elisabeth Maggs    68 - b Chewton ??
George Larner    34 - son in law
Mary Larner    30 - wife, b West Harptree

HO107; 1938; 54; 10;

Family 2

1841 - West Harptree
George Maggs    35 - tailor inmate (??)
Elizabeth Maggs    35
Joseph Maggs    7
William Maggs    4

HO107; 939; 8; 11;

1851 - Hedging

George Maggs    55 - Compton Martin, tailor
Elisabeth Maggs    58 - Chew Magna
William Maggs    15  - Chew Magna

HO107; 1938; 64; 30;


There's clearly an issue with the ages between 1841 and 1851 in both cases. i feel inclined to trust 1851 - Mary Maggs Larner was baptised in 1823 and WIlliam's age is also correct. George the tailor's age in 1861 is fairly consistant with it too


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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 December 21 23:35 GMT (UK) »
I tend to agree with you on that evidence. the mystery still is the marriage where it happened and what Elisabeth maiden name was.

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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 December 21 23:42 GMT (UK) »
There is also the fact though that there is no baptismal records for a George maggs in midsomer Norton or the surrounding area in the 1780’s

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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 30 December 21 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Walmer

"I was looking in the Parish records for midsomer Norton and there are no George maggs recorded as being born there in the 1780’s but there are 2 born around 1795 in the parish"

But there is a George Maggs baptised at Ashwick in the Presbyterian church in 1780. Father John, a waggoner. On FreeReg. Ashwick is no more than about 10 km from Midsomer Norton. Coiuld this be your George? No time to look for his marriage just at the moment.
Somerset: Poole, Hutchings/Hutchin(s), Harvey/Harvie, Bullen

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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 30 December 21 23:49 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou yes it could be ! there is only 5 miles between them. I know people didn’t really move around alot in those days from there local area and it also ties in with the birthdates

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Re: Looking for marriage of George maggs and Elisabeth
« Reply #17 on: Friday 31 December 21 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello Walmer
I'm still trying to get things straight: bear with me.

Your ancestor is a Sarah Maggs, child of a George, right?

The Somerset family (mentioned by Mabel) with a Sarah, daughter of a George is the one in West Harptree baptising (in West Harptree) Ann & Hester in 1815, Thomas in 1817, Sarah in 1820, Mary in 1823 and Maria in 1827.

There is however a Sarah born to a George and Leah baptised in Midsomer Norton in 1809 - this could tie in with the George baptised in Ashwick 1800.

However: The family in West Harptree called their first daughter Ann and their first son Thomas. If their father George is the baptism recorded in 1794 in Midsomer Norton then his parents were Thomas and Ann - a likely naming pattern can be seen.

Do you know for certain that your ancestor Sarah was born in 1820 (and that therefore her father George would seem to have married an Elizabeth). Perhaps you already knew the names of her siblings?

Or could she possibly be the one born eleven years earlier to George and Leah, also in Midsomer Norton?

By the way, I think people travelled a lot more than we think they did. My ancestors were non-conformists in 18th century Somerset and baptised their children, if they could, in presbyterian churches 3 and 5 miles away - rather than in their own village with a potentially absentee Anglican rector/vicar .

Have you found Sarah on a census? Was she married by 1841?


Somerset: Poole, Hutchings/Hutchin(s), Harvey/Harvie, Bullen