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Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« on: Monday 27 December 21 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Evening all,
If I'm looking to check a memorial on Find a grave but can't find the cemetery.

The record states Burial and the place is Our Lady and St Columba, Wallsend 18th August 1917

I see it states Hampshire but I beleive that to be an error?..
And should be Wallsend, Northumberland.

Would this be under any other name on find a grave?

Thanks x

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J83L-4ZR?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=GQ3R-JG9&cid=fs_copy

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Re: Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 December 21 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Although death was Northumberland - Link shows burial as Hampshire  ::) ::)  Clearly a mistranscription

It may be that Find A Grave don't have transcriptions for that church - or there is no headstone
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Re: Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 December 21 19:28 GMT (UK) »
I'm happy to be corrected but I don't think this church 'has' a graveyard. Though an enquiry to the church may tell you for sure.
You need to bear in mind its an RC church and the LDS often bills RC parish deaths registers as burials even when there is no churchyard.

If you look the film no up in the Family Search catalogue it says Deaths, rather than burials.

I suspect she may have had a funeral service either at the church or at whichever cemetery she was buried in, so the priest would have recorded that in the register.
If you can get to either the archives or the North Tyneside local history library the register 'may' say where the burial took place.

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Re: Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 December 21 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked freebmd.  Death shown as Mary - not Maria - A Cain aged 54.  GRO shows her as Mary Ann
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Re: Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 December 21 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked freebmd.  Death shown as Mary - not Maria - A Cain aged 54.  GRO shows her as Mary Ann

Yes but it was an RC death and the RC registers used latinised names so Mary Ann would be entered as Maria Anna

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Re: Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 December 21 22:00 GMT (UK) »
You’ve got this death down as being for someone born in 1884
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/GQ3R-JG9

But as Carole has pointed out she was 54 when she died in 1917, so born c. 1863
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Re: Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 December 21 23:37 GMT (UK) »
You’ve got this death down as being for someone born in 1884
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/GQ3R-JG9

But as Carole has pointed out she was 54 when she died in 1917, so born c. 1863

Hi JenB, yes you are correct, I do actually believe it's the said Mary Ann Cains Mother Mary Ann Cain nee Pearson.

It just needs attached to the correct person. Which has now been corrected.

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Re: Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 December 21 19:34 GMT (UK) »
Burial place would have been mentioned in an obituary if one was published.
St. Columba's Parish History
https://wallsendcatholic.church/st-columbas-parish-history/

Served by Our Lady & St. Aidan, Willington Quay prior to 1885

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Wallsend#Cemeteries
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Re: Our Lady And St Columba. Wallsend Burial
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 December 21 22:52 GMT (UK) »
I think burial place might be Holy Cross or Church bank cemetery.  North Shields local Studies will have the registers on microfilm ..  if you are planning to visit there Lisa.  They also have huge tomes giving year and names that can be checked before looking for full details on microfilm. 
Tyne and Wear Archives are still not allowing access to microfilms I believe.
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner