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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 December 21 23:28 GMT (UK) »
I hope it is OK to post this, found on findagrave..burials in Ellsworth  Cemetery.

ELIZA McELROY
WHO DIED 22ND JULY 1925
AGED 80 YEARS
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ALSO DENIS HURL
DIED 5TH SEPT 1949
AGED 79 YEARS
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ALSO PATRICK
BELOVED HUSBAND OF
ELIZA McELROY
AGED 76 YEARS
WHO DIED 7TH MAY 1932
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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 December 21 23:30 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Elswick cemetery. Newcastle.
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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 December 21 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Burial Register entry for Denis Hurl on 9th Sept 1949, Elswick in Section P Grave 366
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJN-V9NN-K?i

Registers for the years when Patrick and Eliza were buried are not available on FS

Grave Register for Section P, grave 366
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1L-33QW-K?i

Looking at that, the burial rights for this grave were purchased in 1925 when Eliza died (though there was already an interment in that grave, but that person is possibly unrelated)

Death Notice for Denis
Newcastle Evening Chronicle
08 Sep 1949, page 10 col 2
Deaths
HURL - 29 Park Rd, on Sept 5, aged 79 years. Denis, beloved son of the late Patrick and Eliza McElroy.
Requiem St Michael's Fri. 10 a.m. Interment Elswick Cemetery after Mass. R.I.P.


Newcastle Evening Chronicle not yet online for the years Patrick and Elizabeth died but an enquiry to Newcastle Library  giving the names, dates of death from the MI and the dates of burial from the grave register will enable them to look for you.
Enquiry form is here:

https://www.newcastle.gov.uk/services/libraries-culture/history-and-heritage/online-heritage-enquiries

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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 December 21 08:49 GMT (UK) »

Marriage 1893
Name:   Eliza Hurl
Registration Year:   1893
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District:   Newcastle upon Tyne
Parishes for this Registration District:   Search for Newcastle upon Tyne in the London Times
Inferred County:   Northumberland
Volume:   10b
Page:   181
Records on Page:   
Name Patrick McElroy


Putting that ref into Marriage Locator
http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk

shows that this marriage was at Newcastle Register Office, so the only option for the details would be an official  cert from the GRO or the local registrar.
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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 December 21 09:10 GMT (UK) »
 "Possible" sibling for Denis on the GRO website

Births Q1 1878, Newcastle upon Tyne
HURL, John, Mother's maiden name "McCorter'

Deaths Q4 1878 Newcastle upon Tyne
HURL, John, age 0

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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 December 21 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Census transcripts on FS (surnames transcribed correctly per the images)
1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMW-1QH?

1901 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS9X-SZ9?

1891 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:H9GP-F3Z?
Note the lodger :-)

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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 30 December 21 15:40 GMT (UK) »
You have done an amazing job of tacking the family and their burials. If John and Eliza had a son John in 1878, that would narrow down the time frame for John Sr’s death to between 1878 and 1881.
Tnankyou so very much.
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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 30 December 21 15:46 GMT (UK) »
The birth was registered in Q1 1878, so I'd put the starting time frame for death a year earlier, 1877-1881

Though a father wasn't necessarily alive at the time of the child's birth, he 'would' be alive at the time of conception :-)

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Re: Death Dennis Hurl, after 1939, in Newcastle
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 30 December 21 18:24 GMT (UK) »
I believe Dennis' grandfather Daniel Hurl, widower, died Dec 23, 1891 in Killygullib, with his daughter Mary present to whom he willed everything as per proni. I did not find an obit for Daniel on British Newspaper Archive. Can anyone find his death notice? In all the records that I have found, I do not have a wife for Daniel.
John Hurl of Killygullib Glebe married Eliza McCotter in 1865 in the Roman Catholic Chapel. His  father Daniel but of course, the mother's name is not given. I doubt it is  given in England when John died 1877-1881.
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