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Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« on: Saturday 01 January 22 01:51 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to locate any records for Richard Perkins Gun maker between 1774-1796 (London and Birmingham).

Apprenticeship Indenture record dated 28 April 1774 wherein a William SHEPHERD Citizen & Gun Maker of London, took on a Richard PERKIN as an apprentice for a period of 7 years from 31 March 1774

As my Richard Perkins was a Gun maker in Birmingham where his children were born 1796 onwards but I can not seem to find his marriage.

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Re: Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 January 22 06:57 GMT (UK) »
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/perkins.32147/

I found this but doesn't help much. Possible you may be able to contact poster for further info
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Re: Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 January 22 07:12 GMT (UK) »
London Lives 1690-1810
William Shepherd Gun Maker of St Dunstan's in the West Probate of his will 15 August 1776.

William Shepherd Gun Smith Fetter Lane had a Fire Insurance Policy from 1777-1786

No Richard Perkin listed

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Re: Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 January 22 07:22 GMT (UK) »
Is this a possibility as he spent at least 7 years in London as an apprentice. Needs work

Richard Perkin of St Olave Southwark married Ann Clark by license at St Luke Finsbury 16 November 1794. She was of the parish.
Witness Robert Cowell Clark


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Re: Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 January 22 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry:
Pigot's Directory 1841 Richard Perkins 267 Newtown Row Birmingham- Pistol Maker

White's Directory 1849 Richard Perkins 19 Lench Street Birmingham - Pistol Maker
Same 1852 & 1855

This is probably his son Richard who took over the business.

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Re: Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 January 22 08:08 GMT (UK) »
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/perkins.32147/

I found this but doesn't help much. Possible you may be able to contact poster for further info
  Thanks, we are after the Same Richard Perkins father of Thomas Perkins who arrived in Tasmania 1833/34 as a convict, he was a gun and pistol finisher by trade. His father Richard in the 1841 and 1851 censuses is a pistol maker. I have Richards christenining 1799 in Birmingham, parents Richard and Ann.

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Re: Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 January 22 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Is this a possibility as he spent at least 7 years in London as an apprentice. Needs work

Richard Perkin of St Olave Southwark married Ann Clark by license at St Luke Finsbury 16 November 1794. She was of the parish.
Witness Robert Cowell Clark

yes a possibility as the births in Birmingham start in 1796 (2 years later) but needs work.

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Re: Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 January 22 09:45 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry:
Pigot's Directory 1841 Richard Perkins 267 Newtown Row Birmingham- Pistol Maker

White's Directory 1849 Richard Perkins 19 Lench Street Birmingham - Pistol Maker
Same 1852 & 1855

This is probably his son Richard who took over the business.

Yes possibly Richard Perkins who married Harriet Kendrick I am thinking he followed the same profession as his dad Richard.

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Re: Are there Gun maker records for London and Birmingham 1774-1796?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 January 22 12:13 GMT (UK) »
I was assisted a few years ago with research into London gunmakers in my family by a gentleman who has an extensive research collection into gunmakers. I'll dig out his contact details but he may not still be around.

Martin