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Walkingshaw/Scott around Magherafelt
« on: Friday 14 January 22 19:35 GMT (UK) »
I am researching Samuel Scott born abt 1805 in Co. Derry and his wife Mary Walkingshaw.  They were of the Protestant faith.  They had at least one son named James Scott born abt 11/1833.  James emigrated to NY abt 1850 and his father Samuel either came with him then or later before 1860.  Samuel and James died in NY.  I have no idea if Mary Walkingshaw died in Co. Derry or made the trip with them or later.  I only have her name as James' mother from his NY marriage record.  Samuel was living on the 1860 US Census in NY with James so I know he made it to NY.  I am trying to figure out where in Co. Derry they are from.  I find a few Walkingshaw families around Margherafelt.  James Scott was in the Civil War and on his service and pension records it states that he was from "Dairy" Ireland and also "Inisnick" Ireland.  I take Dairy to be Co. Derry or even the actual city but I can't seem to find an Inisnick though I am sure it is spelled phonetically as James did not know how to write or read English.  Does anyone have any thoughts as to where to look for records?  I have tried some sites but no luck.

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Re: Walkingshaw/Scott around Magherafelt
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 July 23 18:15 BST (UK) »

... I find a few Walkingshaw families around Margherafelt.


More often than not for this era, records just don't exist or don't contain enough detail in order to make conclusive progress in researching individuals. But they can point you in a direction, and I would choose the Maghera to Clady area over Magherafelt, in the first instance.

Walkingshaws (including spelling variants) weren't very common in County Londonderry back in the day, according to the Tithe Applotment Books 1823-37 and the 1831 Ireland Census Extract. In the Tithe Applotment Books, the only Walkingshaws I could see were a John and James in the townland of Mullagh in Termoneeny Civil Parish and an unnamed Walkingshaw in the townland of Eden in Tamlaght O'Crilly Civil Parish.

The 1831 Ireland Census Extract largely corroborates that information, showing the only Walkingshaws in County Londonderry as:
- James in Mullagh, Termoneeny, heading a household of 3 males and 2 females (overall);
- 'J' in Mullagh, Termoneeny, heading a household of 5 males, 2 females and a female servant; and
- Hugh in Eden, Tamlaght O'Crilly, heading a household of 3 males and 1 female.

Walkingshaws in Co. Londonderry (1831 Ireland Census Extract):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sg8/

Here's Mullagh: https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/termoneeny/maghera/mullagh/

Here's Eden: https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/tamlaght-ocrilly/clady/eden/

I don't know if Samuel Scott was head of his own household by the time of the 1831 Ireland Census or instead if he ended up as unnamed in someone else's household return in the subsequent Extract that was taken to produce a survey of religious denomination. For the record, a summary of all Samuel Scott head of households in the 1831 Ireland Census Extract shows most of them up to the north and northwest of the county, but there was one in the townland of Inishrush in Tamlaght O'Crilly civil parish.

'Samuel Scott head of households' in Co. Londonderry (1831 Ireland Census Extract):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sg9/

Here's Inishrush, which happens to border Eden:
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/tamlaght-ocrilly/clady/inishrush/

That Samuel was heading a household of 4 males and 4 females, but the composition is otherwise unknown, it could have been man with wife and 6 children, or a widower with aged parents and siblings. It's tempting to be taken in by that Samuel, being so near to the Hugh Walkingshaw household, but the reality is that Scotts were much thicker on the ground and that this one could be another Samuel Scott. As I said, we don't know that your Samuel Scott was named as a householder in the Extract in the first place. And we don't even know if the Hugh Walkingshaw household was directly related to Mary Walkingshaw. But I thought I'd mention it all anyway. Maybe fresh eyes will find something for you.


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Re: Walkingshaw/Scott around Magherafelt
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 July 23 16:50 BST (UK) »
Gaffy, Since my last posting I have identified my Samuel Scott as the one in Inisrush.  He was married to Mary Walkingshaw and the children that I know about are my gggrandfather, James Scott born 1833 and died 1907 in NY, sister Isabella who married a William Moore in Maghera in 1850 and Robert Scott born abt 1830 and died in Scotland in 1886.  Samuel Scott was a master shoemaker.  He emigrated to NY in 1858 to live with son James in Newburgh.  I have him on the 1860 US Census in NY living with his son but he is not with them on the 1865 NY Census so either he died between 1860-65 or he went back to Ireland.  From what I am surmising Samuel was related to Adam Scott of Tyanee.  I was researching another Scott in Newburgh and found that he came from Tyanee, Co Derry, Ireland.  His father was an Adam Scott of Tyanee and Elizabeth?.  Adam's children that I found were Richard born abt 1825 emigrated to NY, Adam born abt 1826 emigrated to NY, Kennedy born abt 1840 emigrated to Australia to visit brother Enos, then to NY, then to Philadelphia, Enos in 1842 emigrated to Australia, William and maybe Jane.
I still don't have anything definite on the Walkingshaws though.

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Re: Walkingshaw/Scott around Magherafelt
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 July 23 20:22 BST (UK) »
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I have him on the 1860 US Census in NY living with his son but he is not with them on the 1865 NY Census so either he died between 1860-65 or he went back to Ireland.
Civil registration of deaths in Ireland started in 1864 so you could check for Samuel's death. Early ones not yet imaged but Samuel's occupation should help.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

For reference here's the marriage of Isabella Scott in 1850 at Maghera Presbyterian Church-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09393/5402742.pdf
Since marriages usually, although not always take place in the bride's church there might be other records there. However, Isabella gave her residence as Maghera so it might just be the church she attended at the time of the wedding.

Added- church records here but don't go back far enough & Isabella not listed as a communicant.
https://magheragenealogy.org/maghera-presbyterian-church-records/

There are lots of Scotts buried at St. Lurach's (Church of Ireland) but many of the burials wouldn't have had headstones.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!