the chances of these people being related?

[riannisuileabhain]

hi - trying to research this ancestor of mine- i have all of her marraige , death record etc.

Margaret Fullard b. 1817 to parents William and Mary.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6s/

there are also these records in the same parish at the same time:

William Fullard 1807
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6t/

Patrick Fullard 1809
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6u/

Maria Anna Fullard 1812
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6v/

Laurenrius (Laurence ??) Fullard 1814
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r6w/

my question is - what are the chances that these could all be siblings?

I suppose the possibilities of there happening to be 2 different fullard families with parents William and Mary is rare, it could also help me figure out my ancestor margaret's mothers maiden name. however just hoped maybe some fresh eyes might help. i would appreciate any advice, thanks!!

[Ruskie]

I would have suggested you view the originals in case they provided any further information but note they are not digitised yet (at least William 1807 isn’t but I didn’t check the others). Not sure if Irish baptisms would give the abode or fathers occupation but those can often help when grouping  families.

Have you found the marriage of William and Mary and does that fit in with the first child’s year of birth.

Have you looked to see if there are any other William and Mary Fullards in the area who may be having children around the same time?

[Maiden Stone]

I'm inclined to think that William, Patrick, Maria Anna were siblings and that Laurence may have been their  brother. Margaret may or may not have been another sister. Names of sponsors are no clue. Pity no address was given.
Were there any more Fullard baptisms with same/similar parents? Any more Fullard baptisms in the parish?
Have you found any William Fullard marriages to a Mary?


 

[riannisuileabhain]

thanks ruskie. ive checked the original registers but they dont reveal much more. I have not found any marriage of a william/mary so i went to looking for margaret's siblings to find her mothers maiden name. The only other fullards with a similar location at the time is a william and catherine fullard.

im inclined to  think this is the family i am looking for as this family lived in Bow lane, off James st dublin for years, and this is james st parish.

The reasons i know that this baptismal record is definetley my ancestor is because she is buried with them.

[Maiden Stone]

I would have suggested you view the originals in case they provided any further information but note they are not digitised yet (at least William 1807 isn’t but I didn’t check the others).

Catholic registers microfilms on National Library of Ireland website
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0496
Microfilm 07228/02 baptisms 1802-24
Microfilm 07228/03 baptisms some months 1816 & 1817 then various  years & months until 1832.

Added:

The reasons i know that this baptismal record is definetley my ancestor is because she is buried with them.

With whom was she, Margaret Fullard, buried?

[riannisuileabhain]

sorry - shouldve clarified more clearly.

Margaret Fullard married John Meledy in 1835. She passed away in 1835 1859! and is buried in Goldenbridge cemetery, in the grave are also:

Her husband, John d.1891 age 80
William Fullard, d.1831
Mary Fullard, d.1843 age 66
Margaret (her daughter) d.1856
John (her grandson) d.1873

I have presumed the william and mary in this grave to be her parents, as johns parents are buried nearby and are of similar age.

[Andrew Tarr]

I'm inclined to think that William, Patrick, Maria Anna were siblings and that Laurence may have been their  brother. Margaret may or may not have been another sister. Names of sponsors are no clue.

Well, the last four births all seem to be siblings as their mother is Maria Hughes (or Huse).  The first child's mother is not given a surname, but the chances of it belonging in another family must be small, and the sequence of dates makes sense.

[riannisuileabhain]

thanks for all your help folks. visited the grave today and unfortunately no extra information to help me, i’ll have to do some more searching!