Alexander Mckenzie age mystery

[MonicaL]

There is this possible 1841 census entry www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a155c54f4040b9d6e70cd2a/john-mackenzie-1841-ross-and-cromarty-rosskeen-1811-?locale=en

Would be worth having a look at the original to check the ages 

I think this could connect to this 1851 entry:

John Mackenzie 42 farm servant b. Lochbroom, Ross-shire
Christina Mackenzie 31 b. Wilton, Ross-shire
Margaret Mackenzie 11 b. Wilton, Ross-shire
Elizabeth Mackenzie 9 b. Wilton, Ross-shire
John Mackenzie 4 b. Urray, Ross-shire

Address: Auckterneed, Fodderty R & C

Again, checking originals is always best!

Monica

[MonicaL]

Did Alexander's parents show as alive or deceased on his second marriage reg?

There is this entry in 1871:

John Mackenzie 68 pauper b. Lochbroom, Ross-shire
Christina Mackenzie 65 b. Kiltearn, Ross-shire
Christina Mackinnon 3 Boarder b. Ireland (showing as MacKenzie in 1881 I think and grandchild)

Address: Millnain, Fodderty R & C

Monica

[MonicaL]

Possible first marriage to consider for Alexander:

Alexander McKenzie and Ann McMillan in 1863 (084/ 7) in Urquhart and Logie Wester. Looks to have been no living children from the marriage.

1871:

Alexr Mckenzie 32 Ploughman b. Kiltearn
Ann Mckenzie 32 b. Strattgness, Inverness (?spelling)
Donald Cameron 20 shepherd

Address: Ardullie Square, Kiltearn

1881:

Alexander McKenzie 42 grieve (farm) b Kiltearn R & C
Ann McKenzie 47 b. Kiltarlity G, Inverness

Address: Ardullie Road Cottage, Kiltearn

An Annie McKenzie/MacMillan, mother's name MCGILLIVRAY, died aged 51 in 1885 (070/ 15)
in Kiltearn.

Monica

[MonicaL]

To round off early censuses for Alexander...

We have him potentially with family in 1841. We also have him (if correct marriage confirmed) in 1871 and 1881. I thought this might be him in 1851:

Angus Matheson 40
Catharine Matheson 36
Jessie Matheson 7
Mary Matheson 5
Catharine Matheson 1
Murdoch Mckenzie 14 servant Lochbroom, rossshire
Alexr Mckenzie 12 visitor b. Lochbroom, rossshire
John Mccleod 40

Address: Wellhouse, Killearnan

I think Catherine Matheson's maiden name was McKenzie (so could be aunt to the boys?). A possible marriage/banns to Angus Matheson on 11 Aug 1843 in Killearnan.

Not sure on 1861 

Monica

[Neale1961]

Alexander Mackenzie died 6th July 1909

Are you certain that you have the correct death certificate?
That death in 1909 was in St Clement, Dundee.

[MonicaL]

Could be this death:

ALEXANDER MACKENZIE
Age 71
Mother's maiden name MACDONALD
1909
062/ 31
Dingwall

Monica

[Neale1961]

Yes Monica. Don't know how I missed it.

[Rena]

Ive looked in all the usual places, Scotlandspeople included. His parents names were John Mackenzie and Christina McDonald but i cant find any births that match the names. His 2nd marriage has him as 45yrs which would make his DOB 1841. The census have it as 1841 too in Urray or Kiltearn in Ross and Cromarty which we know he lived but no birth record is listed for that year that matches. Even to allow  (quite) a few years either way no record comes up. So maybe those arent his parents first names, could be using middle names? Just keep going round in circles

A couple of decades ago I viewed the film of Urray/Killearnan parish baptisms at an FHS centre.   The parish had difficulty in finding and keeping a vicar and apparently one vicar had taken the marriage book with him when he left.  The pages had some very obvious additional entries written in more modern handwriting squeezed in where the writer thought the baptism had occurred.  There was also a page where someone had listed all the dates of the baptisms (or births) of one couple - I remember the mother was an "Ellen" but can't recall whether father was Alex or William.   Some of the places where births took place were unusual, such as the "barn yard".

[Forfarian]

The parish had difficulty in finding and keeping a vicar and apparently one vicar had taken the marriage book with him when he left.

They did not look for a vicar. The term 'vicar' does not exist in Presbyterian churches. It's a term peculiar to the Church of England and possibly other churches of the worldwide Anglican communion, though not as far as I know the Scottish Episcopal Church.

The clergyman of a Presbyterian church in Scotland is referred to as the Minister, except when he is presiding over a meeting of a Kirk Session, Presbytery, Synod or General Assembly, in which case he is referred to as the Moderator.

The Moderator of the General Assembly retains the designation at all times during his period in office, even while not actually presiding over a meeting.