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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 23 January 22 01:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tabster

*  Are you able to provide us with the names of the brothers who were in New Zealand, please ?

   ~   Lu


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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 23 January 22 01:31 GMT (UK) »
Yes, sorry Lu,
Samuel Osborn NEAL born 1881 and John Begent NEAL born 1884

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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 January 22 01:52 GMT (UK) »
" Do you think the girls may have gone to live with relatives in New Zealand ??"
It appears that 2 older brothers were in NZ, married and died there as well, while 2 other brothers stayed in Tasmania, although one did visit NZ before June 1911. One in NZ was married in 1908, the other had a child by 1911.
....   As mentioned there seems to be no way to find all immigration records and those that are mentioned could simply be Mr Neal or E Neal etc.


Hi again Tabster

Just wanted to add some clarification for you.
"...seems to be no way to find all immigration records ...

As these people were Australian citizens, (in those days usually known as "British subjects"), they were free to come and go to/from NZ, as they pleased.    That is, no travel documentation was required.   
AND  they were not classified as "immigrants" (persons arriving in NZ per a government or provincial Immigration scheme ).     The bulk of New Zealand passenger lists emanating from that era, tends to record immigrants. 

"... one [brother ] in NZ was married in 1908 "  We need his name ... there were three NEAL males marrying in 1908.

You mentioned earlier the girls had been place in an Industrial school in Launceston.   

   *   Were they all released at the same time, do you know ??

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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 January 22 02:08 GMT (UK) »
Tabster ... here's the electoral info for NEAL boys >

1914 - Bay of Plenty - Waimarino Supplementary roll

NEAL - Samuel Osborne - Turangarere - Labourer

Added:  Have just found this for John and wife >

1914 - B. o. P. -  Waimarino Main roll
NEAL - John - Turangarere - Bush foreman
NEAL - Margaret Hutchison - married


[Above 1914 is first appearance I can see for Samuel ... and he is listed directly underneath listing for Ruth Olive NEAL (which I think I gave you earlier ?)  ]

1919 - Rangitikei  supplementary roll

NEAL - John - Kaka Road - Taihape - Bush contractor

and on same roll ... but listed as " O'NEAL " Samuel - Kaka Road - Taihape -Bushman

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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 23 January 22 02:11 GMT (UK) »
Is this the correct 1908 New Zealand marriage   ???

NEAL - John -- McKAY - Margaret Hutchison -- 1908

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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 23 January 22 02:15 GMT (UK) »
These NZ births >

1913 - NEAL - Florence Margaret

1915 - NEAL - Christina Dorothy
   Parents of both:   John and Margaret Hutchison NEAL

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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 23 January 22 02:20 GMT (UK) »
Ruth was buried in the Taihape Cemetery.

https://www.rangitikei.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/database

There are other NEALs there and in nearby Mangaweka which may or may not be connected, and reason for them going there.

Ian C

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Huia St is in Taihape, and Hihitahi is between Taihape and Waiouru.

Just adding to what Ian C has already given you.   Turangarere is where Samuel Osborne NEAL was located in 1914 :
Turangarere ... is 3 km approx from Hihitahi
   
        ~  Lu

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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 23 January 22 02:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for your time Lu. Regarding the Industrial School, the 3 girls were admitted in January 1899, but no discharge date is given. Usually the girls stayed until they were 16 but there were exceptions. Sometimes they were given to the care of relatives if they were deemed suitable. Given that the parents were dead and the eldest brother died in Ringarooma in June 1911, perhaps they were all allowed to go to family in NZ, but I would assume that they (NZ brothers) would have had to make a case for this to happen. Of course they could have gone one by one as soon as their time in the school was up.

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Re: NEAL sisters arrival from Tasmania
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 23 January 22 02:58 GMT (UK) »
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