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SEPTIMUS GRAVES WW1
« on: Thursday 20 January 22 15:15 GMT (UK) »
SEPTIMUS GRAVES died on 19 Aug 1918 after service with the London Regt. Aged 43. He died at the home of his sister-in-law, Jane Sharman, at Knockdrin, Mullingar, Co Westmeath.
Septimus was born c 1875 in Poplar. In 1881 the family were at Hale St, Poplar. By 1901 he was married with 2 children and living at Culloden St, Bromley. His wife was Sarah Graves (probably nee Bell). In 1911 he and his wife, now with six children, were living at Plaistow St Mary.
Septimus had at least 4 siblings, Edwin, Charles, Frank and Ernest.
He may have been in Ireland at the time of his death because his regiment was posted there? MY QUESTION - where is Septimus Graves buried?  Was he brought home to the East End or is he buried somewhere around Mullingar?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: SEPTIMUS GRAVES WW1
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 January 22 15:31 GMT (UK) »
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He may have been in Ireland at the time of his death because his regiment was posted there?

No he was discharged from the army on 31 March 1916 on termination of his engagement. A 1917 medical report found that he was suffering from an aortic aneurism which had been aggravated by service in the trenches.

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https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1114/images/miuk1914a_084562-01056

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Re: SEPTIMUS GRAVES WW1
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 January 22 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, ShaunJ. Maybe he had moved to Ireland post-discharge? Or, with an aortic aneurism, his death could have been sudden; possibly while on a family visit? Any further information would be very welcome.

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Re: SEPTIMUS GRAVES WW1
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 October 22 08:33 BST (UK) »
Graves   Septimus   Rifleman   London Regiment   Knockdrin, County Westmeath   19/08/1918   Died at Knockdrin, County Westmeath, from Aneurism of subelarian artery 9 months rupture of aneurism certified. His sister in law, J H Sharman was present at death. Herbert Sharman married Jane Bell in Roscommon in January 1902. On the 1911 Census, I believe she was Jane Emma Sharman, born England, aged 26, living in Gaybrook, Westmeath. There is a birth registered for Jane Emma Bell in Poplar in 1885.   Unknown
Serial No: 18
Unit: 17th Battalion
Age: 43
Born: Poplar, London, Middlesex.
Enlisted: London
Next of Kin: Married Sarah Mary Ann Elizabeth Bell in Poplar in 1897. She was been born in Poplar in 1879, the daughter of William John Bell, born Poplar c1879. Address in 1917-21 Swete Street, Plaistow, afterwards at 4 Coloden Street, Poplar, East London. Father of Rose Jenny, Augustus Sidney, Ernest Herbert, Ellen Grace, Frederick Walter Thomas, and Arthur Graves.
Grave or Memorial:
Notes: The decision of the Pension Board on 20/11/1917 was that he had a medical condition (Aortic Aneurism (sic) ) that although not caused by Military Service, it did originate during his service, and was also aggravated by it. He was awarded  Silver War badge No.228720 on 16/8/1917, and died almost exactly a year later from his pensionable condition. He was awarded a pension of 19/3d a week in October 1917 for 52 weeks. His widow and children were awarded pensions totalling 37/11d a week in October 1918. Put forward to the 'In From The Cold Project' on 13/05/2019 and accepted. Update-rejected on 10/11/2021. Reason given-Insufficient evidence. Re-submitted on 02/10/2022 under the new acceptance rule that his illness originated during service and was accepted.