Rose Hill Help

[jonw65]

Wandsworth Union.
Register of Lunatics....in Darenth Asylum (Children)
Rose Hill, born 1907
Admitted 2 Aug 1918
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3NG-44XQ

From Tooting Bec Asylum (p 355)

Discharged to Darenth Adults
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NG-4QFJ

[jonw65]

From Tooting Bec Asylum (p 355)

Wandsworth Union. Register of Lunatics...in Tooting Bec Asylum
Rose Hill, born 1907, admitted 11 June 1918
Discharged 2 Aug 1918, To Darenth
Relative Sarah Hill, Mother, 95 Grant Road Batt
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3NG-4Q63

[jonw65]

So there we have it. Poor Rose, a very sad story.
You were right about Tooting Bec!
But Rose was only there for a few months before going to Darenth.
Hopefully then R Hill in Dartford in the 1921 census is her. It looks as if she may have died there aged 19, which makes things even sadder.
Jon

[Lensmeister]

Blimey Jon thank you thank you thank you ...

We've been sorting out my MIL's sisters funeral in Sussex (2.5 hours drive each way) so I have just got home, saw notification email and logged straight on. I've not read it all yet .... Oh but I WILL ...

 
Oh boy what a story I'll be able to give MIL over the weekend.

I'll add more in a moment once I read it.

 

[jonw65]

Hi
I guess I could have got there earlier, but didn't expect Darenth (or Tooting Bec) to feature in the Register of Lunatics. I think they just used that book for all their patients in various "mental" institutions.
Never mind, and, as a bonus, we know there are continuing records for some of Rose's siblings in those workhouse schools.
Jon

[Lensmeister]

Spoke to MIL last night briefly.

She did say her Mum (Florence) was ashamed of her birth certificate. But it doesn't mention workhouse just the address of it.

I've copied out all the relevant dates in order and I'll compile to a bullet point list for her and show her after the funeral.

I'll check the links to see why she was placed in institutions.

Thanks Jon,

[maddys52]

Well done Jon in finding these records for Lensmeister, indeed a sad story; and sorry for your loss N.

I was wondering if you don't mind me asking Jon, how you found the images on familysearch? With the new format I'm finding it increasingly difficult to use familysearch, though I know there is a wealth of information to be had there. If you could explain the method you used I would really appreciate it, thanks!

[Lensmeister]

Well done Jon in finding these records for Lensmeister, indeed a sad story; and sorry for your loss N.

I was wondering if you don't mind me asking Jon, how you found the images on familysearch? With the new format I'm finding it increasingly difficult to use familysearch, though I know there is a wealth of information to be had there. If you could explain the method you used I would really appreciate it, thanks!

Jon is AWESOME.

I agree Maddy.
Recently Ancestry and Family Search have changed something and it doesn't always show things up. I tried looking up something I already knew (I was at work so no access to my files) and a known fact never came up

[jonw65]

Hi
Thanks for the kind comments.
I must admit that I too don't like searching on the site so much now, it has become a bit of a pain.

For Rose and the Hill family I was really looking at the records of the Wandsworth Board of Guardians, you can find them via a catalogue search.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1390391

Particularly some of those on page 2, the Intermediate School, Swaffield Road, creed registers, since they are arranged by first letter of surname. And for any films that might have lists of patients in institutions.
FS haven't indexed them, we have to browse the films, and can't search for anybody via the main page.
Ancestry have indexed admissions and discharges on their site, and have filmed some other poor law records that the LDS didn't. But there is also stuff on FS that ancestry haven't put up yet.
Jon