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Re: William Braithwaite
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 January 22 21:04 GMT (UK) »
There is an actual location called Thwing for the benefit to new readers!
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Thwing
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Yewdall/Yewdell/Youdall -Yorkshire

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Re: William Braithwaite
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 January 22 23:48 GMT (UK) »
There is an actual location called Thwing for the benefit to new readers!
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Thwing
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Thank you.  I did look it up and found it was only a short distance from foxholes. 

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Re: William Braithwaite
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 January 22 07:36 GMT (UK) »
Death

William Braithwaite Jun 1877 Epsom 2a 1 aged 62 (yob 1815)

There is an online tree that has a copy of the parish register for Sutton, Surrey, Benhilton, All Saints deaths and burials.

Register number 152.  William Braithwaite, abode Sutton, buried 5 April 1877 age 62 years.  So as mentioned born around 1815.

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Re: William Braithwaite
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 January 22 07:52 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism for Jane with father Edward in 1818 - Edward was a Wheelwright & Publican at that time.  Mother was Anne. 

Baptism was at Foxholes (Sorry I missed that off)

I don't think Jane baptised to Edward & Mary in 1825 at Thwing are the same person as above although they maybe related.

There is a baptism for Francis Postill in 1791 mother Ann Postill, maybe the Postill connection is there?

Big query though - Edward bc 1797 is only 22 at marriage in 1819, not impossible to be Williams father but very young.

Is there another Edward senior who is possibly mentioned by Rosie as having a child Jane in 1818 with Ann?  If it is the same Edward b 1797 he was very busy as a young lad.

Maybe others can shed some light, not finding a lot of parish records for area to help.

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Re: William Braithwaite
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 23 January 22 10:46 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism for Jane with father Edward in 1818 - Edward was a Wheelwright & Publican at that time.  Mother was Anne. 

Baptism was at Foxholes (Sorry I missed that off)

I don't think Jane baptised to Edward & Mary in 1825 at Thwing are the same person as above although they maybe related.

There is a baptism for Francis Postill in 1791 mother Ann Postill, maybe the Postill connection is there?

Big query though - Edward bc 1797 is only 22 at marriage in 1819, not impossible to be Williams father but very young.

Is there another Edward senior who is possibly mentioned by Rosie as having a child Jane in 1818 with Ann?  If it is the same Edward b 1797 he was very busy as a young lad.

Maybe others can shed some light, not finding a lot of parish records for area to help.

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Finding Edward quite confusing.  William also.  William on 1 census is down as being born 1816 foxholes and the rest of the census's being born 1835.  On the marriage bans to Isabel, it says full age in writing but on the actual record details lists him as a minor.  So again confusing.  If we can work edward out it would help and who he was married to.  As you said if he was born 1797 and william 1816 this wouldnt fit with william being born 1816, so perhaps william was born 1835??  The one consistent is that Edward was a carpenter.

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Re: William Braithwaite
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 23 January 22 11:00 GMT (UK) »
If you look back at your initial post there is only one census he is aged 35.  Census are notorious for errors, the enumerators covered many areas and houses, maybe misheard?

The marriage cert has him as full age. The transcription says minor, whoever transcribed was in error the official cert has the info.

If he married in 1848 he could not be born 1835 that is my belief along with majority of census and the death details.

Maybe DNA testing will help you move forward, other than that I have no more to suggest which can help you.

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Re: William Braithwaite
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 23 January 22 11:26 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism for Jane with father Edward in 1818 - Edward was a Wheelwright & Publican at that time.  Mother was Anne. 

Baptism was at Foxholes (Sorry I missed that off)

I don't think Jane baptised to Edward & Mary in 1825 at Thwing are the same person as above although they maybe related.

There is a baptism for Francis Postill in 1791 mother Ann Postill, maybe the Postill connection is there?

Big query though - Edward bc 1797 is only 22 at marriage in 1819, not impossible to be Williams father but very young.

Is there another Edward senior who is possibly mentioned by Rosie as having a child Jane in 1818 with Ann?  If it is the same Edward b 1797 he was very busy as a young lad.

Maybe others can shed some light, not finding a lot of parish records for area to help.

Cas

There are a couple criminal conviction records for an edward braithwaite, but I dont know if its the edward braithwaite Im looking at, perhaps his dad or another edward braithwaite.....

Name:   Edward Braithwaite
Date of Trial:   Lent 1823
Trial Year:   1823
Location of Trial:   Yorkshire - North Riding, England
Sentence:   Acquittal

Name:   Edward Braithwaite
Date of Trial:   Apr 1822
Trial Year:   1822
Location of Trial:   Yorkshire - West Riding, England
Sentence:   Acquittal

Name:   Edward Braithwaite
Date of Trial:   Apr 1822
Trial Year:   1822
Location of Trial:   Yorkshire - West Riding, England
Sentence:   Acquittal

Name:   Edward Braithwaite
Date of Trial:   Summer 1823
Trial Year:   1823
Location of Trial:   Yorkshire - West Riding, England
Sentence:   Death

Name:   Edward Braithwaite
Birth Place:   Yorkshire, England
Arrival Year:   1824
Arrival Country:   Australia
Date of Admission/Photo:   25 Mar 1833
Gaol:   Sydney
Gaol Location:   Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Record Type:   Entrance and Description Book

Name:   Edward Braithwaite
Date of Conviction:   20 Mar 1824
Place of Conviction:   York
Vessel:   Minerva (1)
Port of Arrival:   New South Wales
Date of Arrival:   1 Jul 1824

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Re: William Braithwaite
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 23 January 22 11:34 GMT (UK) »
As with any family history try cover all avenues!

Would ask on Australia board if they can give any details on these Edward/s you have found. You can then pursue or rule out.

I do not have worldwide sub

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