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Mother of John sartin
« on: Sunday 23 January 22 20:21 GMT (UK) »
I think i've been going down the wrong line trying to find the mother of a john sartin in my family tree. John was born abt 1855/56 in yeovil Somerset. In the 1871 census i have been able to find a john sartin living with his mother M Sartin stated widower and his sibling Amy sartin in yeovil somerset.
However i have not been able to trace him in the 1861 census. I do not know what the M in his mothers name stands for and i'm completely stuck on where to go next.
I have checked the Gro index and a birth registered for John sartin in 1856 does not state a mothers maiden name. Other info i already know about john is that he married a Elizabeth Gillard and he died in 1900.
Any suggestions on how to move forward with this research.
Gillard, Bowden,Burden,Lock,Rowe,Sartn,Chitty.
Places of interest, Somerset, Devon, Dorset,Surrey

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Re: Mother of John sartin
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 January 22 21:34 GMT (UK) »
This is a candidate for Amy in the birth indexes.

Mary Ann Sartin Simmons Sartin in 1859

Maybe you need to search on those names...
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Re: Mother of John sartin
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 January 22 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Here they are - transcribed as Parlin

1861 1644 /31/13
Matilda Parlin 37 yrs
John Parlin 4 yrs
Mary A Parlin 2 yrs
William Symons   30 yrs

1851 1930/270/18

Matilda Sartin 27 yrs
Elizabeth 7 months
Are lodgers in the household of William and Harriet Fear

Matilda is a Glover on both censuses and is unmarried
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Re: Mother of John sartin
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 January 22 04:15 GMT (UK) »
Death

Matilda Sartin
Age:   57
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1820
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Death Registration Place:   Yeovil, Somerset, United Kingdom
Death Date:   Sep 1877
Volume:   5c
Page:   272
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Mother of John sartin
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 January 22 04:19 GMT (UK) »
Possible Baptism, image says Matilda

Mathilda Sartin
Baptism Date:   26 Sep 1824
Baptism Place:   East Chinnock, Somerset, England   
Father:   William Sartin, occ Lab
Mother:   Elizabeth Sartin

Parents likely marriage, William of East Chinnock, Elizabeth of this parish.
William Sartin
Marriage Date:   19 Jul 1800
Marriage Place:   Merriot, Somerset, England
Spouse:   Elizabeth Gifford

Baptisms of other children online. Elizabeth also know as Betty

Death of father?

William Sartin
Age:   60
Birth Year:   abt 1775
Burial Date:   7 Mar 1835
Burial Place:   East Chinnock, Somerset, England

Possible death of mother, no image

Elizabeth Sartin
Death Date:   abt 1835
Burial Date:   21 Jul 1835
Burial Place:   Somerset, England
FHL Film Number:   1470971

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Mother of John sartin
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 January 22 05:07 GMT (UK) »
Could be her in 1841,  Martock is about 7 miles from Yeovil. Ages can be rounded down in 1841 census.

Mitilda Sertic (image looks like Sertan)

age 15, servant, born Somerset, England
Civil Parish:   Martock
Registration District:   Yeovil
Piece:   951
Book:   2
Folio:   29
Page Number:   12

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Mother of John sartin
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 January 22 08:16 GMT (UK) »
There are a couple of entries in the Somerset Gaol Register for Matilda - both October 1846. One references a previous conviction in 1844 and both are for Vagrancy.
There is also a newspaper snippet, October 1846, Taunton Courier which mentions the Vagrancy charge.
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Re: Mother of John sartin
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 January 22 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Possible Baptism, image says Matilda

Mathilda Sartin
Baptism Date:   26 Sep 1824
Baptism Place:   East Chinnock, Somerset, England   
Father:   William Sartin, occ Lab
Mother:   Elizabeth Sartin

Parents likely marriage, William of East Chinnock, Elizabeth of this parish.
William Sartin
Marriage Date:   19 Jul 1800
Marriage Place:   Merriot, Somerset, England
Spouse:   Elizabeth Gifford

Baptisms of other children online. Elizabeth also know as Betty

Death of father?

William Sartin
Age:   60
Birth Year:   abt 1775
Burial Date:   7 Mar 1835
Burial Place:   East Chinnock, Somerset, England

Possible death of mother, no image

Elizabeth Sartin
Death Date:   abt 1835
Burial Date:   21 Jul 1835
Burial Place:   Somerset, England
FHL Film Number:   1470971

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Thank you i will look into this.
Gillard, Bowden,Burden,Lock,Rowe,Sartn,Chitty.
Places of interest, Somerset, Devon, Dorset,Surrey