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John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« on: Tuesday 25 January 22 13:04 GMT (UK) »
John Dean (b. abt. 1833 Manchester) married Elizabeth Lynch (b. abt 1841 Ireland, King’s County) on 6 Sept 1869 (St Mary, St Denys and St George, Manchester).

John Dean (16 Strand Street) was a Sawyer. Father James Dean (Printer).
Elizabeth Lynch (15 Higginston Street). Father Edward Lynch (Butcher)

In 1881 they were at 16 Peter Street, Hulme, Lancs. with children John 11 and Mary 10. In 1891 they were at 6 Beech Square, Hulme with children John and Mary.

John was employed as a Wood Sawyer.

I can’t find either of them in the 1871 census or with their families before they were married. Can you help please?

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Re: John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 18:22 GMT (UK) »
If Elizabeth was b in Ireland you won’t find her on an English census pre 1871 unless her parents moved to England.  She may have only come to England after 1861

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Re: John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Looking very closely at the marriage image of John Dean to Elizabeth Lynch I think his father James occupation is Painter not printer. There is a baptism of a John Dean 10th August 1828 Manchester St Mary, parents James(Painter) and Martha

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Re: John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 21:28 GMT (UK) »
 I wondered about the painter/printer as well,John.

 There's an 1847 marriage(Manchester) for Elizabeth DEAN and John THOMAS (later found as John Carter THOMAS). Her father is James DEAN Occ: painter.
   I think they were the witnesses to the DEAN/LYNCH marriage.

Maybe a sister?

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Re: John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Possible Marriage?

18 Aug 1818
St John - Deansgate, Manchester
James DEAN of this town, Plaisterer & Painter*******
Martha ALLEN Spinster of this town
Witness John Wilson
Banns. Bride & groom marked, witness signed.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Maybe 1841 Census?
Joseph Benson   1811
Martha Benson   1806
Jas Dean   1826
Eliza Dean   1826   
JOHN Dean 1829 ******
Wm Benson 1831
Thos Benson 1833


Marriage of Martha DEAN, Widow*, to Joseph BENSON 3 Nov 1828, Manchester, St Mary, St Denys

Later Census Martha Benson is born c 1803 Manchester and 1797 Stockport, Cheshire


James Dean
Baptism 22 Apr 1821,   Manchester, Lancashire
Parents JAMES/MARTHA
Father a Plaisterer***
(Anc.)


1851 Census
Joseph Benson   47
Martha Benson   48
Wm Benson   21
Thos Benson   17
James Dean   29 Stepson*** (see bapt above)
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Re: John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Dean Bapt 12 May 1822
Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Parents JAMES/MARTHA
Father a Plasterer
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if this marriage is connected, Martha is a widow on remarriage.

Name:   Martha Dean
Marriage Date:   3 Nov 1828
Parish:   Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Spouse's Name:   Joseph Benson
Archive Roll:   698

1841 Manchester
Piece:   575, Book:   17, Folio:   37, Page Number:   24
Ages can be rounded down in 1841, all born in county

Joseph Benson 30, Weaver
Martha 35
Jas Dean 15, spinner (James in 1851, still with family)
Eliza Dean 15 weaver (image is Elizabeth)
John  Dean 12
Wm Benson 10
Thos Benson 8

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Re: John Dean & Elizabeth Lynch
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Small offering.

Robert Dean son of James(plasterer) & Martha bap 26.10.1827 Manchester

Robert Dean married Catherine Henshaw 11.5.1842 father James Dean occ- painter.

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