DNA: Are the Irish & Welsh Really Celts?

[Rena]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMqsBK8XeO0

A brief look at some recent genetic studies that indicate immigration from Gaul into Southern England and Wales, but not Scotland and likely not Ireland. Focusing on the Celtic language the lecturer strives to give an answer to this question, as well as when the Celtic language and culture first arrived in Britain and Ireland. He ends up focusing more on the Gaels, because if the study is correct, it would demonstrate a direct genetic relation between the Welsh and Gauls, which some people take as the main marker of being a Celt.

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Wikipedia has a map of Europe showing how the Roman army in the times of Julius Caesar, divided Gaul into three Tribal parts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul

[melba_schmelba]

I think linguistically speaking there isn't any doubt that Irish and Scottish gaelic, and Welsh and Cornish are all part of the Celtic language grouping. But this new info about an influx from France c. 1200-800BC has made people wonder if that was when certain Celtic languages came to the British Isles (Welsh/Cornish and the old northern Brythonic languages) perhaps brought by corded ware peoples and the earlier (related) Bell Beaker peoples from the steppes who came c. 2500BC (almost completely wiping out the older Neolithic ANF/EEF farmers) may be represented by Irish/Scots and Gaelic

Very long 250+ page thread on the December paper here

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?24962-50-replacement-in-GB-Patterson-et-al-in-review

[nestagj]

Hi
Absolutely not a scientific opinion here but as a welsh speaker (from birth) I find it easier to understand Cornish and Breton rather Scottish and Irish Gaelic
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