Roman Catholic Baptism Certificates for Dodd children 1882-1893

[Lola5]

Marie Josephine McMillan or Mary Josephine was a Catholic... , typical RC name.. Born around 1856.

Married a Thomas Dodd , (in a British or Irish regiment)  in Ireland or somewhere else. From 1876  on wards.
3 children born England.

Thomas  could have been in India  , 
(Indian mutiny) or   S. Africa Boer wars from late 1890 s) or anywhere else..

By 1901 he was dead.
What is Thomas's occupation given on birth cert of Louis.?




Have you checked   army pension records for a Thomas Dodd.

[samsscraps]

Yes but 4 children born in England, Clara died during infancy & they moved house after she was born but again I can't find any record of Thomas with them at these homes
 
Clara Matilda
Birth 26 MAR 1882 • 20 St Georges Road, Kensington, London, England
Death 29 JULY 1882 • 49 Talbot Grove, Kensington, London, England - Person reported death listed as Matilda Crowe from the same address, possibly family but I cannot link Matilda & her husband John Crowe to the Dodd family

Thomas is listed as a soldier on Clara's birth certificate then pensioned soldier on her death certificate


I have tried to search the army records but I'm not sure I am getting the correct info from them & I don't have a service number or anything. Not sure I am even looking in the right place to be honest with the army records, I believe he may have been overseasas well as I am drawing many blanks

Thomas Occupation on Louis B/C is pensioned soldier & on his marriage certificate Thomas is listed as a carpenter.
Louis's army records only has Mary & Gerald listed as next of kin - Service number: 8018 Enlistment date: 13 Jan 1904 King's Royal Rifle Corps.
Address listed for Louis, Mary & Gerald on the enlistment is 18 Covent Gardens, Notting Hill

I feel like I am just missing 1 little thing - maybe I need to write this down a bit better for myself & see where I am going wrong

Sorry for the lengthy response but thank you for getting my brain to think about this mystery in a different way

Marie Josephine McMillan or Mary Josephine was a Catholic... , typical RC name.. Born around 1856.

Married a Thomas Dodd , (in a British or Irish regiment)  in Ireland or somewhere else. From 1876  on wards.
3 children born England.

Thomas  could have been in India  , 
(Indian mutiny) or   S. Africa Boer wars from late 1890 s) or anywhere else..

By 1901 he was dead.
What is Thomas's occupation given on birth cert of Louis.?




Have you checked   army pension records for a Thomas Dodd.

[jonw65]

Could Elizabeth Mabel have married as Veronica Mabel?
Dec 1907 Paddington 1a 192
William Parker North
+
Veronica Mabel Dodd

1911 census in Bow, Poplar, Mabel North is 21, born Kensington
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPZ-SDF

Free index to 1921 census has the family in Willesden
Elizabeth Mabel North, born 1889, Kensington, London

One or two C of E baptisms on ancestry.
Eldest child registration
NORTH, EILEEN  MABEL     
Mother's Maiden Surname: DODD 
GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 516

[jonw65]

Free index to 1921 census has the family in Willesden

8 Charlton Road, Harlesden
Schedule 53
Elizabeth Mabel North, born 1889, Kensington, London. Widow?
Eileen North, born 1908, St Marylebone, London
William North, born 1909, Bow, London
Grace North, born 1915, Harlesden, Middlesex
Joan North, born 1919, Harlesden, Middlesex

Elizabeth Mabel North at 8 Charlton Road on the 1922 electoral register.

[Lola5]

So Thomas was injured by time of  Clara,s death.
Could have been in Afghanistan ( British havebeen fighting  in Afghanistan since before 1832)
Or China or India. Or?
So need Thomas,s service history.   But which Thomas Dodd out of so many. Service record will give marriage date.
Army pensioners often had  another job to supplement  pension.
Perhaps need to look on 1871 census for a Thomas Dodd , carpenter.?
Maybe National Arc hives will have something.
 
Have you any idea of where he was born or when.
Need his death too.

[samsscraps]

Oh wow thank you, I have searched for marriages for Elizabeth & not much has come back but this does seem feasible - not sure why she would have married as Veronica though, maybe a RC name given to her?

Up until I started searching our family a few years back we believed my great grandfather Gerald was an only child so really not too sure.  Its worth looking at & seeing if I can find some further documentation. Thank you for this new lead, much appreciated

Could Elizabeth Mabel have married as Veronica Mabel?
Dec 1907 Paddington 1a 192
William Parker North
+
Veronica Mabel Dodd

1911 census in Bow, Poplar, Mabel North is 21, born Kensington
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPZ-SDF

Free index to 1921 census has the family in Willesden
Elizabeth Mabel North, born 1889, Kensington, London

One or two C of E baptisms on ancestry.
Eldest child registration
NORTH, EILEEN  MABEL     
Mother's Maiden Surname: DODD 
GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 516

[jonw65]

Hi
Elizabeth is still in Willesden in 1939.
Says born in 1890. Date of birth could be similar, but perhaps a few days out!
The Veronica name is a real curveball.

[samsscraps]

I don't know much about the various wars so, Unfotunately, all I have on Thomas & Mary was found on birth certificate of the kids when I first started searching our tree. I started with Gerald & didn't think about any other siblings as we were told he was an only child.

There are so many Thomas (Henry listed on one of the birth certificates) Dodd when I search the army records, I don't have other info for his service other than on the kids birth & marriage certificates. I have tried to go through service records & find a Thomas married to a Mary to try find a marriage date but not much luck for me. I have tried searching back through Louis records to see if there was anything else but I am not seeing anything new.

I have found quite a few Thomas (Henry's) in the 1971 records as a carpenter but not knowing his birth date or place of birth does not help

I appreciate the fresh  eyes, will put these kids to bed & try looking through the National archives again   

So Thomas was injured by time of  Clara,s death.
Could have been in Afghanistan ( British havebeen fighting  in Afghanistan since before 1832)
Or China or India. Or?
So need Thomas,s service history.   But which Thomas Dodd out of so many. Service record will give marriage date.
Army pensioners often had  another job to supplement  pension.
Perhaps need to look on 1871 census for a Thomas Dodd , carpenter.?
Maybe National Arc hives will have something.
 
Have you any idea of where he was born or when.
Need his death too.

[samsscraps]

Birthdate listed on Birth certificate & baptism entry is 20 Jan 1889

Hi
Elizabeth is still in Willesden in 1939.
Says born in 1890. Date of birth could be similar, but perhaps a few days out!
The Veronica name is a real curveball.