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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 21 April 24 10:20 BST (UK) »
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John Munn Whittaker 22 Sept 1844 - abode Nun Hills

James Whittaker 27th August 1848 - abode Nun Hills

Both have parents Edmund, a Tailor and Margaret
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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 21 April 24 10:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks Heywood,
Those are his sons. It's what happened to James in Ireland. He would have been about 8 when Edmund and Margaret left Rossendale, Lancs for the Longford area.
John Munn and Elizabeth (daughter) both went with them.
I can't find the eldest daughter Margaret anywhere after 1851 UK and Wales Census and now l dont have what happened to James either so it seems.
Whittaker (originally from Newchurch, Rossendale then Manchester) and Seel (Manchester).

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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 21 April 24 10:45 BST (UK) »
I posted the information as in your original post you have both sons born and baptised 1844.
It seems quite likely that it could be James in New Ross.
It might have been a clerical error re the name.
Do you have James’ police record? Is there anything there re his origins?
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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 21 April 24 10:47 BST (UK) »
Delays causing repeat postings - sorry
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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 21 April 24 10:48 BST (UK) »
Delays causing repeat postings
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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 21 April 24 11:02 BST (UK) »
Royal Hospital Chelsea Returns of Payment of Army and Other Pensions, 1842-1883

Transfer of pension for Edmund Whittaker
Admission to Out Pension 23rd June 1829
Transferred from Preston to Longford 31st December 1855

I think you have this already
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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 April 24 12:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks again,
I have come across a Irish Catholic baptism record for a James Whittaker son of Edmund and Margaret Whittaker nee McGuiness from Ross. This James was born 16 June 1849. It is this James who marries Teresa Ellen Byrne.
I've now ended up with no burial place for Edmund or Margaret. No birthplace for their eldest son who was also James nor one for my ancestor Edmund ( l have trawled through so many records without success) and no idea of what happened to daughter Margaret. This family is so frustrating!!
Whittaker (originally from Newchurch, Rossendale then Manchester) and Seel (Manchester).

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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 21 April 24 13:18 BST (UK) »
James Whitaker mmn Donohoe was registered in June quarter 1848.
Perhaps he fibbed about his age later.

Have you looked for another James b 1849 (ish) in Lancashire with a father Edmund, a Pensioner.
Have you looked James up in RIC records?
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Re: Edward/Edmund Whitaker and Margaret Donough/Donohoe/O'Donoghue ideas please
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 21 April 24 14:07 BST (UK) »
No  l haven't checked the RIC. I think that's on FindMyPast which l havent got atm.
There is a discrepancy because the James Whittaker who is a Timekeeper in Dublin on the 1911 census is married to Teresa Ellen Byrne and he was born in Lancashire so is it just a coincidence that the other James converts to Catholicism the year before the marriage in exactly the same place?
That is really unlikely.
There are definitely 2 different James Whittakers. It's just really odd.
I can look the RIC records up in the library but maybe l just forget about the conversion record altogether.

Whittaker (originally from Newchurch, Rossendale then Manchester) and Seel (Manchester).