Robson family

[rosie99]

You say you are after the name of her father, do you know who her mother was

[mallow]

Ni Rosie no access to 1921 census

[Ladyhawk]

I think there maybe a connection with the Allen’s from 1939 register  Charles Henry Allen and his wife Bessie.  They married 1929 Islington and her surname was Dyer.

Elsie M DYER b1919 mmn Brooker she married 1944 Islington a Dracass

London Electoral Register Islington
Charles H Allen
Bessie Allen
Elsie M Dracass
William G Robson ( son of Frederick & Bessie - he may have married Irene Large)
Irene Robson

Frederick G ROBSON
Rank:   Rfn
Record Type:   Card
Death Date:   15 Sep 1916
Service Number:   S/18632
Corps, Regiment or Unit:   Rifle Bgd.
Title:   WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description:   Other Ranks Died Roder F-Roger W
Next of Kin:   
Relation to Soldier
Bessie ROBSON Widow born 3 Apr 1891
Violet Elizabeth   Stepchild 13 Apr
William George   born 20 April 1917

William G ROBSON mmn Brooker Jun 1917  Holborn    1b   870

Bessie Brooker Age:   23
Record Type:   Admission
Birth Date:   1891
Admission Date:   6 Mar 1914
Admission Place:   Westminster, St Marylebone, London, England

Bessie           Brooker 1890
Violet Elizabeth ditto 1914
Record Type:   Discharge
Discharge Date:   7 May 1914
Discharge Place:   London, England, Westminster, St Marylebone

Violet Elizabeth BROOKER no mothers maiden name - 
GRO Reference: 1914  J Quarter in ST. MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 928

Frederick George Robson age 30
Marriage Date:   9 Jul 1916    Holy Trinity, Dalston
Father:   George William Robson
Spouse:   Bessie BROOKER age 25 Father Frank

Mar 1918
Dyer    William A         Robson    Islington    1b   644    
ROBSON    Bessie    Dyer    Islington    1b   644

Sep 1929   
DYER Bessie   
Allen    Charles H Islington    1b   712

Bessie ALLEN Age:   80
Birth 3 Apr 1891
Registration Date:   Jul 1971
Registration District:   Barnet Volume:   5a Page:   178

[softly softly]

Ladyhawk, Great research, just to add that the 1921 census has Violet Elizabeth Dyer living in Islington with a William Allen Dyer and Bessie and 2 siblings.

John

Added, birth of a  half siblings?  as per 1921 census

Births Sep 1919   
Dyer    Elsie May    mmn  Brooker    Islington    1b   266

Births Jun 1917   
Robson    William George     mmn Brooker    Holborn    1b   870

[rosie99]

Ni Rosie no access to 1921 census

It is possible to do free searches to that census on FindMyPast  .  As we all have to pay extra for getting the full information then you can find out as much as we can before we have to pay to see the record 

[Ladyhawk]

just to add that the 1921 census has Violet Elizabeth Dyer living in Islington with a William Allen Dyer and Bessie and 2 siblings.

Well found John I had been looking under surname Brooker

[softly softly]

Elsie May Dyer born 12.8.1919
1st Marriage to Stanley R Dracass jq 1944 Islington (no children appearing on freebmd)
2nd marriage to Leonard J Cleeve dq 1953 Wood Green (recorded as both Dyer & Dracass)

Death

Name:   Elsie May Cleeve
Death Age:   64
Birth Date:   12 Aug 1919
Registration Date:   Jan 1984
Registration District:   Harlow
Inferred County:   Essex, Middlesex
Volume:   9
Page:   2776

John

Added, looks as though Elsie and Stanley went their own ways as he re-marries Joan A Oakley in 1952 Barnet and he died

Name:   Stanley Richard Dracass
Death Age:   81
Birth Date:   14 Jun 1920
Registration Date:   Jan 2002
Registration District:   Hatfield
Inferred County:   Hertfordshire
Register Number:   B46C
District and Subdistrict:   5321B
Entry Number:   63

[Ladyhawk]

Bessie Brooker Age:   23
Record Type:   Admission
Admission Date:   6 Mar 1914
Admission Place:   Westminster, St Marylebone, London, England

Bessie           Brooker 1890
Violet Elizabeth ditto 1914
Record Type:   Discharge
Discharge Date:   7 May 1914
Discharge Place:   London, England, Westminster, St Marylebone

Violet Elizabeth BROOKER no mothers maiden name - 
GRO Reference: 1914  J Quarter in ST. MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 928

I forgot to add that these Workhouse records can be found on Anc*y - London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1764-1930

I was going to add image of the two entries just in case you didn't have access, as this post is on the lookup board an image cannot be added.
 
On Bessie BROOKER admission in 1914 it gives her occupation as Barmaid and reason for admission Dest. & pregnant and on their discharge 1914 it was at "Own Request"

ADDED

On her marriage to Frederick George ROBSON it looks to me as if her father is named FRANK Brooker, deceased, labourer but on this baptism record her father is named JOHN 

Bessie dob matches that given on the  WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers posted

Bessie BROOKER birth 3 Apr 1891
Baptism 31 May 1891 Farnborough, St Peter, Surrey
Father:   John Brooker, Gardener Mother:   Elizabeth
abode The Oaks, Farnborough

John not with Elizabeth & Bessie 1891

The Oaks
John Brooker. Age: 26 M occ Gardener
Relationship:   Servant
Birth Place:   Cove, Hampshire
Civil parish:   Farnborough
Registration district:   Hartley Wintney
Piece:   954 Folio:   7

Edit to add this looks as if it could be Bessie's birth entry

Bessie BROOKER mmn WOOD 
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in HARTLEY WINTNEY  Volume 02C  Page 184

and her parents marriage

24 May 1890 Farnborough, St Peter, Surrey

John BROOKER age 26 occ Gardener
father James, labourer

Elizabeth WOOD 26
father Thomas, carpenter

Looks as if Elizabeth Brooker is with her parents on 1891 census in Wood Heath transcribed as WOOD - originals reads Brooker Piece:   955 Folio:   18

Thomas Wood 66 Head occ Carpenter
Mary Wood 64   Wife
George Wood30   Son
Elizabeth Wood   27 Daughter 'M' Cove, Hampshire
Harriet Wood 31   Daughter 'M'
Percy F Wood 2   Grandson
Edith A Wood 9/12   Granddaughter
Wood 3 Days   Granddaughter

[Pennines]

What amazing research Ladyhawk and John.

To say 'Very well done', seems an understatement.