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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 23 February 22 16:34 GMT (UK) »
The tree that I referred to is Bruce's and I think the main thing that is incorrect is Mary's birth date and middle name.

There is a Mary Catherine Evans in Ffestiniog of the right age (19), but daughter of John and Mary nee Jones. She is on the 1901-11 censuses.

The marriage in 1912 is the right date, given the dates for the children, and the certificate would clarify matters either way.

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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 23 February 22 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Awaiting advice from moderator re locking/new post as per my earlier reply.  I think it may be best if no further info is posted until that decision is made
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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 23 February 22 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, CaroleW, I was typing this up & checking info when you posted.

The eldest son of Edwin & Mary is Richard Edmund, Richard after Edwin's father so I wonder if Mary's father was called Edmund?

possible in 1891 in Trawsfynydd
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4TYR-LN2

1901 Edmund has remarried march qtr 1894 to Mary Owen who was in the household in 1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4TYR-LN2

1911 Mary back in the household, Edmund's occupation should be amaethwr - farmer.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JD-RRC

If this is the correct family, Edmund's first marriage was to Margaret Thomas june qtr 1884. It won't be online as it was in a Baptist Church
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3422127/3422135/78/ 

Using the free index on the 1921 census, Eirlys Jones b. 1914 is in the same household in Trawsfynydd as an Edmund Evans b. 1852.
 
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 24 February 22 09:12 GMT (UK) »
I agree that the OP needs to start with the 1912 marriage and 1921?census to confirm those facts first.   
I have traced a friends family story back to Hedd Wyn and their link was through marriage and it was hard !   There are so many incorrect trees for them and so many descendants.     It is impossible to work down from the family as there are so many it is much easier to work up the tree.
It can be so easy at times to look at the data and see what you want it to say with such common names rather than do a diligent search confirming as you go on.   
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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 24 February 22 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi nestagj  :) Thank you! I await the mar: record from GRO. the 21cen for Edwin 1891 was no help, It only told me that  the wife and children were not at home, and Edwin was out of work.  all the best bruce
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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 24 February 22 19:41 GMT (UK) »
if you look for the wife and children in 1921, you may find they are with relatives. Try searching on an unusual name, like Eirlys.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #24 on: Friday 25 February 22 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Osprey Thank you Bruce
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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 09 March 22 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi all  :) I have the said mar: for Edwin Jones and  Mary Catherine Evans dated 16/11/1912
Mary's Father " Edmund Evans job Farmer, the wedding register Portmadoc. The address   Ffestiniog Trawsfynydd, The address living before Marriage, looks like Muriau Trawsfynydd , this address is the same as Edmund Evans 1850 brother to Evan Evans 1852 father to Ellis Humphrey Evans. It is a safe bet that Mary Evans 1885 is my Mary Catherine of 1884. :)

Can one tell me is "Muriau" Trawsfynydd  a street name or a farm name I cant find it!! :)
All the best Bruce.

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Re: Upper Corris Talyllyn Wales
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 09 March 22 10:28 GMT (UK) »
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Can one tell me is "Muriau" Trawsfynydd  a street name or a farm name I cant find it!!


Just to the south

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map?x=269488&y=334286&z=115&sv=269488,334286&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map&searchp=ids&dn=821&ax=269488&ay=334286&lm=0

PS - they look like farms to me - a higher one (no uchaf though) and a lower one  (isaf)
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