Again, thank you all lots for the info given. Eileen your quite right in saying that Mary in the Griffiths valuation could be either the mother of william married in 1853 or nothing to do with me. I got an enhanced death view of Mary in the valuation the enhanced view I have states that the mary in the valuation was widowed, aged 82 and place of death Armagh. The registration details are as follows.....D/1871/14/1002/3/39.Richill. Her death is registered as being on the 14thNovember.Its so frustrating as I feel as if I am going in the right direction but dont know what or where to go to find out how to prove either way if she was Williams mother.At least I know it cant be williams wife. That brings up another question which I will have to look at at a later date. Where did she live between 1861 and 1864 when she left for New Zealand.Im picking she stayed on the Orr farm with her three children.
Message for Aghadowy: The death you found of Mary in Richill further down this page I take it it is the one in the valuation??. Again I am grasping at straws when I see that the informant is a James Orr so if she is mine this James maybe a sibling to my william marrying in 1853.
About going about things in the wrong way. I started here in NZ and worked backwards. William and Mary who married in 1853 and had three children are all buried in a family plot in New Plymouth here in NZ.There is very scant info. Believe me when I say I have worked backwards and have all info pertaining to when they lived in NZ
In the family plot it says that williams mother was a Mary Quin/nn. Thats why when I found the marriage of a William Orr in 1810 to a Mary Quin/nn in the parish of Mullabrack I got a bit excited as I thought maybe they were williams (married in 1853) parents.I have got all information on william and mary (married 1853) and what happened to each of the children. Everything is correct from this end.William had to ask permission to have his wife join him here in NZ and I have a copy of when she arrived on the "blue Duck" in 1864. Its going backwards into Ireland that I am having trouble with. Nothing anywhere that we have speaks of his parents (william marrying in1853) except the bit on the family plot.By the by william and mary had another child here, a girl who contracted TB through her mothers milk as mary her mother had TB.She lived only a year. Hope this helps a bit further.
