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Where is Wales?
« on: Friday 04 March 22 13:34 GMT (UK) »
OK, I know where Wales (the country) is! I grew up there!

But I have just seen on another thread a comment that if "Wales" was stated in a USA census record as the place of birth of an immigrant, it meant Wales, UK, not Wales, NSW.

I didn't know there was a Wales in NSW. BUt how many people know there is a Wales in South Yorkshire? Yep, it's in the metropolitan district of Rotherham; and just to up the ante, it's 7 miles as the crow flies from Rhodesia   ::)

There must be lots of other duplicated placenames within the UK that potentially cause confusion. A friend of mine was convinced that her family were from the West Midlands for as far back as she could go, until I pointed out that the 1881 census actually gave the pob as Newcastle-o-T and not Newcastle under Lyme! And how many Newports are there? What others do people know?
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Where is Wales?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 March 22 14:06 GMT (UK) »
There is also a Wales in Maine.  My ancestors lived just over the county line in neighboring Litchfield.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales,_Maine
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Where is Wales?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 22 14:11 GMT (UK) »
And Egypt is in Yorkshire, as well - near Thornton :o
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Re: Where is Wales?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 March 22 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Well I know there are a lot of villages called Whitchurch in England and a place called Gibraltar in Buckinghamshire.
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Re: Where is Wales?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 March 22 14:34 GMT (UK) »
And Egypt is in Yorkshire, as well - near Thornton :o

and in the east end of Glasgow, Scotland.

Moscow in Ayrshire,California near Falkirk, Troon in Ayrshire and Cornwall.

All of which just emphasises the need to be accurate when recording place names.

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Re: Where is Wales?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:04 GMT (UK) »
 :D  :D  :D

The N.S.Wales  Archives are located at Kingswood, a suburb of the City of Penrith NSW, Australia.  Please never confuse that with Kingswood, a suburb of the City of Tamworth NSW, Australia.

Manilla is near Tamworth NSW
Texas is in Queensland
Newcastle is north of Swansea in NSW
Launceston is in Tasmania
1770 is a town in Queensland
Perth is in Western Australia
Auckland is in NSW
Wellington is in NSW
Londonderry is in NSW
Llandilo ... well of course, it is in NSW

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Re: Where is Wales?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:19 GMT (UK) »
As far back as 1732, there was confusion about the location of Wales.  The grave stone of my 7X g-grandfather, Richard Tarr, in Rockport, Massachusetts says, "First settler of the town 1690, Born in Wales, England, Resided at Saco [Maine] in 1688, died 1732, Buried here in his own land, granted by him to the village for a burial ground."
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Where is Wales?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 March 22 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Wales has also picked up a Bethlehem in its travels.  ;D

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Re: Where is Wales?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 March 22 18:54 GMT (UK) »
America is in Wales too. In Flintshire near Moel Findeg.
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