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« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 January 23 12:32 GMT (UK) »
I THINK Christina Drennan is the daughter of Jean Kerr (Angus's sister in law) and Charles Drinnan. Looking at that census record it could well be Drinnan. Although now I have Jane Drennan (who is too old to be the daughter of Jean)  I am now doubting that!!  ???
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Marshall, Beeson (Herts)
Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham)
Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex)
Poulton, Philbrick (Essex)
Guest, Timmins (Staffs)
Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham)
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Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex)
Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada)

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« Reply #19 on: Monday 09 January 23 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I agree about Ancestry, also about the age of George Gunn. The 1841 census has done even more drastic rounding down than usual: I have George born in 1820 (sister Jane in 1818 and sister Mary in 1823). While on the subject of George, can you read his occupation on the 1841 census? Is it Rail something?
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« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 January 23 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Maybe 40-year-old Jean is the daughter of William Drynan and Jean Kerr, baptised 11 January 1801 in Straiton?
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 15:59 GMT (UK) »
While on the subject of George, can you read his occupation on the 1841 census? Is it Rail something?

My best guess is Railhouse man but not convinced!  ???
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Marshall, Beeson (Herts)
Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham)
Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex)
Poulton, Philbrick (Essex)
Guest, Timmins (Staffs)
Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham)
White (Bucks)
Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex)
Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada)


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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Hmm I can see how you got that but as you say 'not convinced'. I think the Rail part is right because he worked for the railways all his life.  But after that it gets a bit difficult, doesn't it?
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure it's not Warehouseman?
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Not sure of anything! Warehouseman looks like a good possibility.
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« Reply #25 on: Friday 14 June 24 20:42 BST (UK) »
We have now finally tracked down Angus Gunn's death - in New York in 1846. He is entered on his daughter Mary's marriage record to John Mitchell in 1855 as an indigo manufacturer resident in Harlem, deceased. A search of New York City Municipal Deaths 1795-1949 reveals the following:
 Name: Angus Gunn  Sex: Male  Age: 60  Birth Year (Estimated): 1786
Birthplace: Scotland  Residence: New York, N.Y.  Address 122nd Street  Event Type: Death  Date: 12 Jul 1846  Place: Manhattan, New York County, New York. Certificate No. Bk15  Cemetery: Trinity
122nd Street is in Harlem.
That his occupation in America was indigo manufacturer is not so surprising as we've always known he had some kind of connection with it. Presumably that was why he moved down to Lancashire.  His son George married Emma Sophia Greenhalgh, whose father was a calico printer. Indigo is used in calico printing.
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« Reply #26 on: Saturday 15 June 24 15:38 BST (UK) »
Oh my word. That's amazing! Well done Gill  :o ;D

I don't think George's marriage certificate has him as deceased in 1849 but he could well have been.
I wonder why Angus went out to America in the 1840s? He was not a young man by then.
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Marshall, Beeson (Herts)
Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham)
Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex)
Poulton, Philbrick (Essex)
Guest, Timmins (Staffs)
Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham)
White (Bucks)
Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex)
Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada)