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Re: Can anybody help me find what happened to Eliza Wade?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 March 22 14:12 BST (UK) »
A Little off track just trying to clarify.

Rose Anne Gould was born 1849 she married age 18 to John Dover,
Children
Robert William 1867 reg. Headington Union
Johnathan 1869 reg. Edmonton
Frederick 1871        ditto
Charles 1872 
Esther Eliza 1874
William 1876
Isabella Mary Ann 1876
David George 1879

Her husband John Dover died 24 February 1885

She marries Edward Wade 9 August 1885, by this time she is 35 years old. (32 in 1881)

1891 says she is 40 s/b 42

By the time Florrie is born 1897/8 she would have been 49 years old. It's unlikely for her to be the mother.

Note in 1891 census her children named Dover have been listed as Wade, even though the image has Dover. Notified ancestry.

Also Elizabeth May Dover

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Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Can anybody help me find what happened to Eliza Wade?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 March 22 14:20 BST (UK) »
The fact that Eliza was crossed off the 1911 census could indicate that she'd moved
or died between the census being handed out and collected  .
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Re: Can anybody help me find what happened to Eliza Wade?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 March 22 14:45 BST (UK) »


Do you know when John Gould father of Rose Ann died as it appears her mother Jane married an Alfred Day, could Florrie be a child of one of his children? Implied on census record

I can find a Florence Day registered West Ham 1898, but no Florence/Florrie Wade.

Roseanna was baptised in Wheatley on 28 July 1850 d/o John and Eliza.
She is on 1851 census with parents
Piece: 1727, Folio: 45, Page: 24
so I'm not sure how the Days are related
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
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Re: Can anybody help me find what happened to Eliza Wade?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 March 22 14:50 BST (UK) »
John and Eliza are alive and well in Wheatley in 1891, having raised a brood, who've all fled the nest.
Piece: 1162, Folio: 15, Page: 24
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Can anybody help me find what happened to Eliza Wade?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 March 22 14:52 BST (UK) »
Without it sounding childish, this post started off looking for Eliza Wade born 1888. It would appear she has been found. Why are we posting details etc for the request re Florence here?

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Re: Can anybody help me find what happened to Eliza Wade?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 March 22 18:01 BST (UK) »
Furthermore, in the 1911 census with her parents and sister, her name actually appears but is crossed out: 'Lizzie Wade - 23 - Single - Born in Wistow - English.'

Given that Lizzie's age (23) is indicated on the census, it suggests she is still alive in 1911. After all, why provide her age if she was dead. My theory is that Lizzie is the "living" daughter (as noted in the census), and that young Florrie is either a niece or foster child of Edward and Rosanna Wade.

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Re: Can anybody help me find what happened to Eliza Wade?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 28 March 22 18:40 BST (UK) »
I posted re: Florrie because the poster was assuming she was the living child, when the living child is Eliza.
Furthermore, in the 1911 census with her parents and sister, her name actually appears but is crossed out: 'Lizzie Wade - 23 - Single - Born in Wistow - English.'

Given that Lizzie's age (23) is indicated on the census, it suggests she is still alive in 1911. After all, why provide her age if she was dead. My theory is that Lizzie is the "living" daughter (as noted in the census), and that young Florrie is either a niece or foster child of Edward and Rosanna Wade.


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Re: Can anybody help me find what happened to Eliza Wade?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 28 March 22 18:57 BST (UK) »
the question on 1911 census is number of years married
and number of children from current marriage

so Florence could be a child of either outside marriage or from a previous marriage

well done for discovering Lizzie
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