Could a birth have not been registered?

[pickpin]

Hi Michael.  We don't think she would have been registered as Page, because Sarah didn't marry Joseph Page until 1927 and we know Joseph was not her biological father.  DNA testing indicates her biological father probably had the surname Stead.

[CaroleW]

She died in 2016 & birthdate on death reg is a year later than the 1939 entry -  21.2.1924

[Dundee]

Who did Ivy name as her father when she married?  Is there definite knowledge that Sarah was her mother?

In July 1984 an amendment was made to add the middle name 'Lucy' (Form CR282).  No amendment was made to the year of birth.  Do you know how Ivy proved her age when she became eligible for the aged pension?  It seems she thought she was born in 1924.

Debra 

[jc26red]

Sometimes you have to think laterally, you may have already checked the following but worth a mention.

Did Sarah have any siblings of childbearing age in 23/24? Sister/sister in law perhaps died in childbirth?

Have you looked for a birth using the grandmother’s maiden name.

Have you found Sarah’s birth to confirm her name was Balham?

Does the DNA confirm her maternal line?

Do you know what school Ivy attended, checked records for parents names?

Other than 1939, which doesn’t give relationships, what proof do you have that Sarah was her mother?

[brigidmac]

Totally out there

But could she have been adopted by the couple and  actually have been a child of single mother of Sarah s brother as you implied DNA matches that side
Where does fact that  she was born to single mother come from ?

*sorry already mentioned by Jc26

[jaywit]

I think that any Smethwick birth would have been recorded in West Bromwich district in the 1920s.

[Ashtone]

...although Sarah Grace may have gone away to give birth.

Could this be the birth registration? Although it's Bristol and a bit later than February.

Sep 1924  
Ballam  Ivy    MMN Ballam    Bristol    6a   97

UPDATE: Disregard Bristol birth above. Looks like the child died in 1924.

[pickpin]

Who did Ivy name as her father when she married?  Is there definite knowledge that Sarah was her mother?

In July 1984 an amendment was made to add the middle name 'Lucy' (Form CR282).  No amendment was made to the year of birth.  Do you know how Ivy proved her age when she became eligible for the aged pension?  It seems she thought she was born in 1924.

Debra 

Hi Debra, we noticed the Lucy too.  We don't know her to have had the name Lucy, but thought if it was hand written on a document, Ivy can look like Lucy (especially how she used to write it).  Do you know what the form CR282 would be for?  If she was born in 1924, she would have reached pension age in 1984.  Could the 1939 register have been updated off the back of something to do with her pension?

I've ordered her marriage certificate, but I'm expecting it to say Joseph is her father.

[pickpin]

Sometimes you have to think laterally, you may have already checked the following but worth a mention.

Did Sarah have any siblings of childbearing age in 23/24? Sister/sister in law perhaps died in childbirth?

Have you looked for a birth using the grandmother’s maiden name.

Have you found Sarah’s birth to confirm her name was Balham?

Does the DNA confirm her maternal line?

Do you know what school Ivy attended, checked records for parents names?

Other than 1939, which doesn’t give relationships, what proof do you have that Sarah was her mother?

All Sarah's siblings were male, but I can explore whether they may have had a wife that died.  There is DNA link via Sarah's grandmother, but it's sketchy because it's 3 generations up from Ivy and over via a half sibling before down several generations to the other matches, so it's possible that her mother was not Sarah but a was a blood relative of Sarah.

We have found Sarah's birth record with surname Ballham.

Thank you for the school suggestion, we do know the name of the school so I will check that out.

Now you come to mention it, I don't think we have anything saying for certain that Sarah was her mother.  I have the 1921 census but Ivy is living with Sarah's mother.  Our understanding is that she lived with Sarah's mother for most of her childhood.